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To: CynicalBear

Honestly, I nearly stopped reading as soon as I saw Nimrod.
I know he has a special place in the heart of the anti Catholic. BTW, I don’t think you meant to say that Noah started the Babylonian empire.

There is a huge difference between the promises and covenant of the OT and that of the NT.

Jesus made a promise that He has kept. He gave the authority He had to the Apostles, but just as we know that all of the Church’s history is not recorded in the NT, we also know that all of the heresies and conditions which arose are also not.

We look to the Bible as our blueprint, our plan to follow but it does not have the answer to everything that arises. Oh, the answers are there, but not always explicitly.

And, so again, we have the protestant saying that 2,000 years after the fact, they have a better handle on the Church and Scripture than those closest to the Apostles and the writing of those Scriptures.

****Not only doesn’t the CC advise to “search the scriptures daily to see if these things are true” it actually for many, many years kept the scriptures out of the hands of the lay people****

See, it’s exactly that hackneyed garbage I am just fed up with reading. That is not true, there were reasons the Bibles were protected and why the laity could not read it for themselves. But, still, here we have it. The Church chained the Bible and kept it away so that it could fool the laity. NOT TRUE, but still regurgitated ad nauseaum.

You say the CC does not say to “search the Scriptures daily, yet anyone reading the CC will see hundreds of references to Scripture. IOW, look at these Scriptures and see the truth for yourself, we have nothing to hide. The CC is a reference book, a laying out of the Church’s understanding of the faith and the life of the faithful.

Just as the Ten Commandments are a list of what not to do, the Beatitudes are a list of how to be. That is what we have in the Bible and in the catechism. The catechism is a complement to the Bible, a commentary on it and it does include the writings of Christians, because it is a commentary and it shows the development of the beliefs through the centuries.

Whatever, ignore the fact that there are those who believe YOU believe in a faith founded in paganism, which takes for itself the ancient pagan myths. Even the flood story of Noah has a correlating pagan myth.

So, yes, when you throw out the same old same old over and over mindlessly, then it is a cop out.


320 posted on 01/04/2012 7:38:12 PM PST by Jvette
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To: Jvette
>>Honestly, I nearly stopped reading as soon as I saw Nimrod.<<

I’ll bet you did. Catholics don’t dare study the evil he started. They would recognize so much of it within the teaching, symbols and rituals of the CC.

>>BTW, I don’t think you meant to say that Noah started the Babylonian empire.<<

How in the world could you have gotten that from my post? It was Nimrod, Noah’s great grandson who did. Surely you knew that. Not?

>>We look to the Bible as our blueprint, our plan to follow but it does not have the answer to everything that arises. Oh, the answers are there, but not always explicitly.<<

I don’t suppose the following passage and others like it mean nothing to Catholics.

2 Timothy 3:15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. 16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

>>And, so again, we have the protestant saying that 2,000 years after the fact<<

Catholics using that line is so lame. Nimrod was completely contrary to God only two generations after the faithful Noah. That length of time nonsense is futile, it means only that because of that fake “tradition” ruse that the RCC uses has had that much time to drift from truth. I could compare Luther to Noah and it would make more sense.

>>That is not true, there were reasons the Bibles were protected and why the laity could not read it for themselves.<<

Yeah right. And the RCC has been an upstanding organization protecting the citizens all that time. The true history of the RCC is ugly and certainly not Christ like.

>>yet anyone reading the CC will see hundreds of references to Scripture. IOW, look at these Scriptures and see the truth for yourself, we have nothing to hide.<<

Yeah, like the woman of Revelation is Mary. No way anyone who truly understands scripture and prophecy would ever make that claim because it’s totally false. Another one would be that the Queens of the Old Testament Kings were their mother which is again false.

The RCC is closer to the whore of Revelation than the church that is the body of Christ.

321 posted on 01/04/2012 8:28:56 PM PST by CynicalBear
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