Posted on 01/02/2012 3:13:39 PM PST by RnMomof7
Such a tragedy. I sure wish I could have seen it.
~ Oscar Wilde on Great Mormon-Catholic War
LOL. Right along with Hitler, Ann Frank, Che, Buddy Holly, and Elvis.
I guess I will have to go buy an indulgence.
Because Christ's church continues to the present day and passes to Peter's successors. If Jesus had intended the church to be dismantled after Peter died, he would have said so.
Lets take the prayer of Prayer of Pope Pius XII. [http://catholicism.about.com/od/tothevirginmary/qt/Honor_Immacula.htm]
Ill use just the bolded excerpts from the prayer.
we cast ourselves into your arms
1 Peter 5:7 Casting all your care upon him; for he careth for you. (When did we need to replace God with Mary?)
confident of finding in your most loving heart appeasement of our ardent desires, and a safe harbor from the tempests which beset us on every side.
Hebrews 4:15-16 For we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin. Let us therefore come boldly to the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy and find grace to help in time of need. (once again Catholics replacing Christ with Mary)
O crystal fountain of faith
Romans 12:3 according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith. or "a measure of faith." (but Mary is the fountain of faith for Catholics)
Lily of all holiness
1 Samuel 2:2 There is none holy as the LORD: for there is none beside thee: neither is there any rock like our God. (for Catholics however, all holiness is given to Mary)
Conqueress of evil and death
Hosea 13:14 I will ransom them from the power of the grave; I will redeem them from death: O death, I will be thy plagues; O grave, I will be thy destruction: repentance shall be hid from mine eyes. (but Catholics claim it was Mary who conquered death)
Convert the wicked
John 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. 8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: 9 Of sin, because they believe not on me; (Catholics have even replaced the Holy Spirit with Mary)
Statement by catholic Bishop Liqouri .......We often more quickly obtain what we ask by calling on the name of Mary than by invoking that of Jesus..... She...is our Salvation, our Life, our Hope, our Counsel, our Refuge, our Help
Need I go on? Catholics have replaced virtually every attribute and working of God and given that to Mary in their worship.
Confirmed...
Under the common definition of venerate, Catholics in fact do that: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/venerate
Catholics venerate Mary, but they do not worship her.
“If I were to get really obnoxious I would ask you to provide proof of your ministers absolute succession by ordination to Christ himself.”
Go ahead and get obnoxious. What does scripture say?
7-8 Naturally there are different gifts and functions; individually grace is given to us in different ways out of the rich diversity of Christs giving. As the scripture says: When he ascended on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts to men...
11-13 His gifts to men were varied. Some he made his messengers, some prophets, some preachers of the Gospel; to some he gave the power to guide and teach his people. His gifts were made that Christians might be properly equipped for their service...” - Ephesians
” 3-8 As your spiritual teacher I give this piece of advice to each one of you. Dont cherish exaggerated ideas of yourself or your importance, but try to have a sane estimate of your capabilities by the light of the faith that God has given to you all. For just as you have many members in one physical body and those members differ in their functions, so we, though many in number, compose one body in Christ and are all members of one another. Through the grace of God we have different gifts. If our gift is preaching, let us preach to the limit of our vision. If it is serving others let us concentrate on our service; if it is teaching let us give all we have to our teaching; and if our gift be the stimulating of the faith of others let us set ourselves to it. Let the man who is called to give, give freely; let the man who wields authority think of his responsibility; and let the man who feels sympathy for his fellows act cheerfully.” - Romans
It is GOD who gives the gift of preaching, or makes a man an Apostle (a la Paul).
Good. Pope is right
oops
Exactly, this is nothing new.
I don’t know why RN7 is posting this article as if it was written today when it from an article in 2007.
Whenever I post a thread here I put the date of the article
Oh, you would bring that up. Ha!
That’s ok. I don’t need some guy living in utter luxury in palaces, wearing fine clothes, eating fine food, only spending his time with the finest of people to tell me whether or not I’m right with God.
This one I know. The answer is "No."
Galileo was honored more than once by the Vatican. he was free to explore a heliocentric hypothesis.
However, a logical consequence of the heliocentric hypothesis is parallax. That is the position of a planet, for example, compared to the position of the "fixed stars" behind it, should be different, all other things being equal, in June from what it would be in December.
And this consequence has been verified, after the development of instruments subtle enough to measure it.
BUT in the time of Galileo there was no measurable difference. So Galileo was told he could not say his theory was definitely true. He was welcome to explore it and to publish his explorations. He just couldn't say it was true because there was no proof.
he not only was allowed to 'suggest' that the earth was not the center of the universe, he received public Vatican honors for the suggestion.
ooops.
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