The "Truth" is subjective/view on our parts at times. It is humbling on our parts at times.
Posted on 01/01/2012 3:02:56 PM PST by rzman21
Oh really then why are the very Priests who committed these "evil acts" not in jail for their crimes....and worse why are they still within the church as priests? ..."Dozens of priests accused of sexual abuse are still preaching in Philadelphia, even after a scathing grand jury brought their presence to light. A grand jury last month lambasted the Philadelphia Archdiocese for keeping at least 37 priests credibly accused of improper behavior towards minors in positions that would bring them into contact with more potential victims....Three weeks later, most of those priests are still active in the ministry, the New York Times reports.....and that was March of last year...care to share where they are now?
The "Truth" is subjective/view on our parts at times. It is humbling on our parts at times.
I did answer as far as I'm willing to give you.
Can you not read?... Do your own 'work'
..I said.." read about Jesus and Nicodemus, and then Romans 10:9,10"... That's pretty clear and easy to do...assuming you do have a Bible.
What do you want... something for "free"?....You're suppose to "work" at it remember?
Hello!!
Christian is an action word for believers. You do not sit down and declare only. What is Christian Peace of mind in Christ? It is in action of Prayers.
Hello!
Philippians 4:6-7
"Do not be anxious about anything, but IN EVERYTHING, BY PRAYER AND PETITION, with thanksgiving, PRESENT your REQUESTS to GOD. And the PEACE of GOD, which transcends all understanding, WILL GUARD your HEARTS and your MINDS IN CHRIST JESUS."
I know a great many Catholics who have this because of the prayers in the "ritual" or devotional. Your stereotypes are Sad!!
“I did answer as far as I’m willing to give you.”
Ah, charity and honesty. How refreshing.
...and Catholics have accused me of painting with a wide brush.
Good Grief.
On the subject of homosexuality, the Catechism of the Catholic Church states:
‘Homosexuality refers to relations between men or between women who experience an exclusive or predominant sexual attraction toward persons of the same sex.... It has taken a great variety of forms through the centuries and in different cultures...... Its psychological genesis remains largely unexplained.
Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity, ‘tradition’ has always declared that ‘homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered.’ .....They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity..... Under no circumstances can they be approved.
‘The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible.... This inclination, which is objectively disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial.... They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided.... These persons are called to fulfill God’s will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord’s Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition.
‘Homosexual persons are called to chastity. By the virtues of self-mastery that teach them inner freedom, at times by the support of disinterested friendship, by prayer and sacramental grace, they can and should gradually and resolutely approach Christian perfection.’ [2357–2359]
(God does not say homosexuality is a “disorder” He says it’s an abomination. Sin is sin. and by this article the church STILL continues to welcome them into it’s parishes.)
"Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity...."Yes, sin is sin, and if everyone who sinned stayed away from churches, whether Catholic or Protestant, there would be almost no one attending or serving. The quote says this about the way of life expected of a homosexual who becomes a Christian:
‘Homosexual persons are called to chastity. By the virtues of self-mastery that teach them inner freedom, at times by the support of disinterested friendship, by prayer and sacramental grace, they can and should gradually and resolutely approach Christian perfection.’As should everyone else. Remember, grumbling was enough to get folks blasted by God so they couldn't enter the promised land and Paul reminds believers of this lest they, too, should fall and suffer the same fate.
Catholic Church's Pedophilia Investigator Jailed For Pedophilia
by David Badash on November 14, 2011
The Catholic Church’s pedophilia investigator, in charge of child protection and interviewing adults who as children had been victims of pedophile priests today was jailed on pedophilia charges in England.
49-year old Christopher Jarvis, a married man with four children of his own, began serving his 12-month sentence after serving the Catholic Church for nine years in a dioscese that included 120 Catholic Churches.
Jarvis admitted to the charges, which included possession of 4000 images of pre-pubescent boys, including several depicting sadism, child rape, and torture.
You still try to interpret what you can't. Amazing!
Your thinking is Dangerous wrong because you do not know what you attempt to explain. Astonishing!!
If some one has passing thoughts and does not act on the sin. Did you not have a passing thought on sins. It's any sins. Just outrageous for you to think you know to tell us.
It is like you just almost can get to a good point but you can not even arrive.
I will be praying for you! Just astonishing!! May God open up your mind!
So let me ask you what did you do today for all victims of crime. Your in the human race what have you done personally. Because once you accuse the layity of a church what is the common reference for you!! Hello!
I do not even think you know what I am talking about.
Let's hear your successful preventive measures in a true reality of experience. What an accuser!
I am tired of a accusing of layity while you think you can seat in judgement. There is a whole load of peole who been hearing your false rant against who?? A criminal? Yes!! A criminal only!!! But you want to imply or say the church goer is guilty ? Amazing!!
She does not know how to read it properly! It is astounding!! This caww goes on and on about what? Just amazing!!
The very title “Homosexual” delineates a sin against God, and illustrates a continuing mind set that is adversarial to obedience.... This is the deception of our day that goes unchallenged in most Churches.......Preachers telling us that homosexuals can be Christian and inherit the kingdom. God says no, “be not deceived,” they shall not inherit it..... So for people today to blatantly ignore that precept and claim that they will is both confusion and a denial that God’s Holy word is true.
Saying that there are non-practicing homosexuals is akin to saying that there are non-practicing harlots, or there are non-practicing murderers. ....Why would any Christian want to call herself a harlot if they are no longer selling themselves? Of course, the only honest answer is that, they wouldn’t! It is really a ridiculous concept, and yet it has found favor in some Churches.
This back door defense is without any scriptural validation, and is actually nothing more than baseless debate or justifications of man’s wisdom. ..... These are those who want to be called Christian, but who also insist on retaining the title of Homosexual or Gay Christian. .......The reasons they give may vary, but they all have that same attachment to the concept. ie,.... though they profess outwardly to be of Christ, they really don’t want to completely let go or surrender their old life for Him. ......And keeping the name allows them to partially hold on to the delusion that it’s really not an unlawful thing to be Gay.
Is a ‘non-practicing’ homosexual still guilty of homosexuality? Of course he is........ Because the sin is in the very “thought process,” not the physical act itself. ......Would a Christian who has an adulterous thought pop into his head, then choose to call himself a Christian Adulterer? God forbid! Likewise, there is no such thing as a Christian Homosexual. ....The mere fact that someone would have a desire to retain the title homosexual, while professing their new life in Christ, indicates that they have not yet truly repented of their sin. .....It is actually a dire confession that they desire to retain certain name rights to that former lifestyle. In the true Christian who is born from above, there has been a great spiritual change. We are no longer swine, but sheep. Would anyone want to retain the moniker, swine? It makes no sense.
Of course, the modernist would query, “What’s in a name?” But I would retort that one who desires a name that signifies something that is an abomination to God, should instead question, “what is really in his heart.” Because what we once were, in Christ Jesus we are no more.
Exerts from......Can A Homosexual Be a Christian.......http://www.mountainretreatorg.net/apologetics/homosex.shtml
I am one.
Glad to see it's had impact even if it's resistance to truth.
I don’t think posting about the Sacraments is “fomenting dissension”. In any case, we’ve certainly seen a lot worse from long time posters here.
To theorize LDS is beyond paranoia, IMHO.
Rzman has posted quite a few articles that I’ve found interesting and thoughtful. One in particular was from a protestant author and the stated goal was to find common ground beyond the surface brickbats we see too often on FR. Of course that thread received very little attention.
I suggest you check it out and seek some intelligent discourse.
What you are is not your fault? You just do not have it. What ever the it is. Just to be polite. Just Amazing!!! She continues with this thinking.
The common thread here is they consider Catholicism on par with the LDS.
The fact both of us are ex-Protestants has to gnaw their craw.
I know very little about LDS because I don’t read its fabricated theology.
Martin Luther and Joseph Smith had similar unsavory characters based on my reading about the latter.
Reading Die Luther Werke showed me just how vile of a human being Martin Luther was. I also was disgusted even more by Luther when I had to read a book at Lutheran Valparaiso University in 1993 where Luther wrote a vulgar letter to someone where he said that they would “cum together in Christ.”
Luther, like Joseph Smith, sanctioned bigamy and murder when it suited him.http://socrates58.blogspot.com/2007/02/luthers-melanchthons-duplicity.html
This man was from hell.
No...that's a lie...God never "calls Homosexuals" to chastity....rather to repentance and becoming a new creature in Christ...putting off of the old man of sin.
Individuals can be former thieves, former pornographers, and former homosexuals, but they cannot be those things and be Christian also.
A Christian is a "new" creation sealed with the Holy Spirit. And so they would no longer want to be called that which is abominable to God. Rather than a source of pride, this title would be an abomination to them, the same as it is to God.
And yet the catholic church says retains the name for the,and allows the title to stay in their very instructions to them in that catechism..." Homosexuals are called to chastity".... Not even acknowledgment that they are not homosexuals when Christ sets them free...the church still labels them Homosexual and devises behavior for them. Now that's what's truly astonishing.
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