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The Sacrament of Holy Orders
The Ethiopian Orthodox Tehwahedo Faith and Order ^ | Fr. Marcus Daoud

Posted on 01/01/2012 3:02:56 PM PST by rzman21

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To: metmom
While the True Church grieves that you turn away from it, we will always welcome your return with open arms.
181 posted on 01/02/2012 2:26:05 PM PST by starlifter (Pullum sapit)
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To: metmom

“That’s why it’s been going on for well over 1,000 years.”

What? Sin? Yeah since the Garden of Eden. Tell me again what congregation is free of sin. Go ahead.


182 posted on 01/02/2012 2:29:37 PM PST by narses
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To: caww

Counter reformation suggests otherwise. The abuses of Luther’s time have been corrected.

Funny you bring up homosexuality when the Catholic church is one of the FEW who still stand in opposition to gay marriage.

Where’s the condemnation for the Lutherans? Episcopalians, etc? Here’s a newsflash. You’re attacking your allies not your enemies.


183 posted on 01/02/2012 2:46:35 PM PST by BenKenobi (Sky friend abase committal meets for Chemo)
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To: starlifter

I became part of the true church, the real body of Christ, when I was born again.

It didn’t happen because of being initiated into some institution or organization.

It comes from above, from the Holy Spirit.


184 posted on 01/02/2012 2:46:59 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom

“And that’s why it took all that negative publicity by the secular media when people refused to be pushed around any more by the church and finally started to speak out against it, before the *church* made a show of doing something about it.”

Which is why the Great Schism preceded it? I’m sorry, history doesn’t side with you here. The protestants were neither the first nor the last to break away. They just happened to be the ones who broke away at the time of the enlightenment.

There have been far more serious conflicts, you should read into what went on with Arius.


185 posted on 01/02/2012 2:51:07 PM PST by BenKenobi (Sky friend abase committal meets for Chemo)
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To: metmom
I became part of the true church, the real body of Christ, when I was born again.
How is that done? Alone in a room, or with water, or how?
186 posted on 01/02/2012 2:54:56 PM PST by narses
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To: presently no screen name; smvoice

“that is a belief originated from satan himself from “

Satan or St Paul

read Colossians 1:13 for the answer.


187 posted on 01/02/2012 3:09:27 PM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: caww

ridiculous and absurd, eh?

anyone who understands the doctrine that the Church is the Body of Christ would not think it “ridiculous and absurd”

Jesus said He would be with us always, even to the end of the world.

where you find Jesus, you find the Church.

if you can’t find the Church throughout 2,000 years, you can’t find Jesus.

pretty simple really.

that’s alright, Joseph Smith would fail the test as well, so don’t feel so bad.


188 posted on 01/02/2012 3:22:07 PM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: BenKenobi
the Catholic church is one of the FEW who still stand in opposition to gay marriage.

Lip service only and a contradiction in every sense of the word when in fact the catholic church remains infested with homosexuals and pedophiles preying on innocent victims.

Let's call it what it is...and see them rid their church of the filthy priests who use the same hand to offer the elements of communion to it's members which also had that same hand between a child's legs...or held another's man's private parts. Go figure that.

189 posted on 01/02/2012 3:23:47 PM PST by caww
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To: narses
born again....How is that done? Alone in a room, or with water, or how?

The fact you have asked is revealing....scriptures are clear on that matter...Jesus's conversation with Nicodemus comes to mind...read him....and then read Romans 10:9,10

190 posted on 01/02/2012 3:28:54 PM PST by caww
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism; presently no screen name; CynicalBear; metmom
Where do you think the Kingdom of God's Son is at this point in time? On Earth? "And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus." Eph. 2:6. That is where believers are, spiritually, at this time. The Kingdom of God's Son in the Heavenlies. It will be on Earth when we return with Christ at His second coming to establish His Kingdom on this Earth. But that has not happened yet.

Col. 1:13 is speaking of believers being delivered from the power of Satan's power over us during this time we are still on this earth. This earth is his right now, and will be until Christ returns. Do you not know Satan is the prince of the power of the air, and roams to and fro like a roaring lion, seeking those who he will devour?

Our position, our "home", our hope, our promise, our gift from God, our affections are on things above, not things on the earth. And as I posted to you earlier, we are to preach the gospel of the grace of God until He returns for us. To think your religion can bring about His Kingdom on earth is to be deceived and deceive others. We are about to go from the age of Grace to the tribulation. Just when do you plan on bringing that Kingdom to fruition? And where in God's word does He tell you that you are?

191 posted on 01/02/2012 3:32:32 PM PST by smvoice (Better Buck up, Buttercup. The wailing and gnashing is for an eternity..)
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism
where you find Jesus, you find the Church.

That is not what you stated....furthermore any individual who knows the gospel of Jesus Christ can share the good news about Christ as they are led by His Spirit to do so...it does not require church attendence to know Christ is among us.....the church membership relects Him to a dying world as they go out into it and reveal the Gospel message.

"Where two or more are "gathered" in my name there I am among them". It's the gathering of Christian believers which make up the church.....and they are not constrained by a building or an institute now nor were they from the beginning....and neither is Jesus.

192 posted on 01/02/2012 3:35:37 PM PST by caww
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To: BenKenobi
Where’s the condemnation for the Lutherans? Episcopalians

Well when you can show that they too have protected, enabled and caused homosexuality to infest their entire church, and that with the approval and enabling by it's leadership...then we can agree they too are as guilty.

You do realize the length and breadth of this infestation into the catholic church I would hope....and those who are responsible for it remaining and growing to where it has come to this day.

193 posted on 01/02/2012 3:41:13 PM PST by caww
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To: caww

“The fact you have asked is revealing....”

Really?

And that you cannot answer simply or easily is revealing as well.


194 posted on 01/02/2012 3:55:03 PM PST by narses
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To: BenKenobi

Where’s the condemnation for the Lutherans? Episcopalians, etc?
>>Bigots only look for evil in what they hate. The dying off of the conservative Baby Boomers in American Evangelicalism means a bleak future for family values because the young folks just aren’t replacing them.

I know the inner circle of the religious right, and the only people who are fighting for family values are among those 50-60 +.

Where are the young Evangelicals who have not been contaminated by postmodernism?
http://www.barna.org/barna-update/article/16-teensnext-gen/147-most-twentysomethings-put-christianity-on-the-shelf-following-spiritually-active-teen-years

The young people just want to be part of the world. That’s the future.

For the sake of fairness, the Catholic Church in America isn’t much better off because catechetics went out the window after Vatican II


195 posted on 01/02/2012 4:18:11 PM PST by rzman21 (To know history is to cease to be a Protestant (John Henry Newman))
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism
Until you proclaim God's Word is THE FINAL Authority - don't use HIS WORD for your own agenda.

That was played out in the garden in the beginning and it didn't end well.

God's Holy Spirit inspired Word is The FINAL Authority - believe it, proclaim it, live it or weep for It Is Written.
196 posted on 01/02/2012 4:18:38 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: metmom

“I became part of the true church, the real body of Christ, when I was born again.”

How is that done? Alone in a room, or with water, or how?


197 posted on 01/02/2012 4:20:07 PM PST by narses
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To: metmom; Quix
Hi MM-Dissappointed? My Friend and Brother Quix taught me how to go to photo bucket and htmls years ago. Even though I disagreed with him I thought the pictures were hilarious.

I also hope he will be back. But do not believe I think you all are that stereo type but there are people who are like that in real life. If you noticed over the years It is an exaggeration to get to a point. Do you really think Quix believed his over the top. I would private message him. I grew even more to like him even though we disagreed on theology.

Once one of the conservative grammas(There are a few with similar names) put a Car hood ornament picture of a jaguar car to show idol worship. I broke a rib cage laughing. I showed my indy church brethren too. They laughed so hard too. We need to take the starch out sometimes.

I pray thee well MM!!

198 posted on 01/02/2012 4:47:40 PM PST by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass ,Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: mitch5501
Hi Mitch-Ditto to post 198. Same sentiment.

Freeper regards.

199 posted on 01/02/2012 4:52:50 PM PST by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass ,Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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To: caww
Photobucket

Yeah right! Like it is written in the Catechism. It its all over in certain percentages of every organization. Stereotype.

200 posted on 01/02/2012 5:02:00 PM PST by johngrace (I am a 1 John 4! Christian- declared at every Sunday Mass ,Divine Mercy and Rosary prayers!)
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