Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

To: BenKenobi; metmom; boatbums; smvoice; daniel1212
You can post that nonsense all you want but it’s still based on hearsay based on rumor and story telling. If an event of that importance had truly happened the apostles would have written about it. If as the RCC claims Mary had died between three and fifteen years after Jesus ascension and her body were taken to heaven every one of the apostles would have had opportunity to include it in their writings. Not only did they not write about the event but no mention is given her after Jesus ascension. She was inconsequential to them.

Not only did Jesus say that those who would believe on Him would be more blessed than Mary but no elevated status is given her in any writings of the Apostles and only after 300 years is any mention given here.

The entire Mariology myth is based on nothing but hearsay and embellished imaginings told and retold over the centuries. The only written record from Bible times of the “bodily assumption of a “queen of heaven” is pagan.

663 posted on 01/07/2012 6:29:36 AM PST by CynicalBear
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 645 | View Replies ]


To: CynicalBear

Again, Scripture does not contain all of what the Apostles wrote, nor does it claim such a ridiculous notion. As for Mary not mattering to the Apostles, we know that’s not true, for the Apostles took care of her.

If she died when she is said to havedied, then I’m not sure I see the relevance to the purpose of the bible. The bible is not an exhaustive work covering the early church. It covers those parts that are necessary for our salvation.

From the account, we learn several things. 1, that Juvenal spoke for the Council at Chalcedon. Meaning that he spoke with the authority of the Church. Two, he speaks regarding ‘long held tradition’, and this account is not the first time this has come up. It is however the only one that we possess - which is an entirely different matter.

It’s not hearsay - far from it.


664 posted on 01/07/2012 8:33:05 AM PST by BenKenobi
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 663 | View Replies ]

To: CynicalBear

“Not only did Jesus say that those who would believe on Him would be more blessed than Mary”

He never says that at all. He says: “blessed are those that hear the Word of God and obey.

One, you’re assuming that Mary disobeyed, AND that he was denying what he taught - “honor thy father and thy mother”.

He does not say you can dishonor them, only that He is to take priority.

Get it right. If you’re going to quote scripture, get it right or don’t bother.

“The entire Mariology myth”

Then tell me what the Catholic church believes about Mary. Good luck. I bet you can’t.

“The only written record from Bible times”

And what is this account? I wager it’s not reputable or otherwise you’ve have cited it before..


666 posted on 01/07/2012 8:39:23 AM PST by BenKenobi
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 663 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson