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To: CynicalBear

Here’s the portion in it’s entirety.

And all this true is confirmed by the third book of the Euthymiac History, chapter 40, where we read, in so many words: “It was said that Saint Pulcheria erected many churches for Christ in Constantinople. One of these is the church in Blachernai, built at the beginning of the reign of the divinely-appointed Emperor Marcian [who acceded to the throne August, 450]. When the two of them built a worthy house there, for the all-glorious and all-holy Mother of God, the ever-virgin Mary, and adorned it with every sort of decoration, they hoped to find her holdy body, which had been the dwelling-place of God.

And summoning Juvenal, the archbishop of Jerusalem, and those bishops from Palestine, who were staying in the capital because of the Synod held at Chalcedon [October, 451], they said to them: “We have heard that teh first and most outstanding church of the all-holy Mother of God, the ever-virgin Mary, is in Jerusalem, in the place called Gethsemane, where her life-giving body was put in a coffin. We now wish to bring this relic here, to protect this royal city.’

Juvenal answered, on behalf of them all: “There is nothing in the holy, inspired Scripture about the death of Mary, the Holy Mother of God; but we know from ancient and wholly reliable tradition, that at the time she so gloriously fell asleep, all the holy Apostles, who were travling the world for the salvation of the peoples, were lifted up in a single instant of time, and were gathered up in Jerusalem; and as they stood by her, they saw a vision of angels, and heard the divine chanting of the higher powers. So it was that she gave her soul, in an ineffable way, into God’s hands, surrounded by the Glory of God and all heaven. Her body, which had been God’s dwelling place, was brought for burial amidst the singing of the angels and the Apostles, and laid to rest in a coffin in Gethsemane; and the angelic dancing and singing continued without pause in that place for three days.

But after three days, the song of the angels ceased; the Apostles were there, and since one of them - Thomas - had not been present [for her burial] and came at the end of three days, and wished to reverence that body which had housed God, they opened her coffin. And they could not find her body, which had been the object of such praise; all that they found were her burial wrappings. And being overcome by the ineffable fragrance that came out of the wrappings, they closed the coffin again.

Amazed by this miraculous discovery, they could draw only a single conclusion: the one who had deigned to become flesh in her own person, and to take his humanity from her, the one who willed to be born in human flesh as God the Word, the Lord of Glory, and who had preserved her virginity intact after childbirth, now chose, after her departure from this world, to honor her immaculate and pure body with the gift of incorruptibility, and with a change of state even before the common, universal resurrection.


645 posted on 01/06/2012 9:56:45 PM PST by BenKenobi
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To: BenKenobi; metmom; boatbums; smvoice; daniel1212
You can post that nonsense all you want but it’s still based on hearsay based on rumor and story telling. If an event of that importance had truly happened the apostles would have written about it. If as the RCC claims Mary had died between three and fifteen years after Jesus ascension and her body were taken to heaven every one of the apostles would have had opportunity to include it in their writings. Not only did they not write about the event but no mention is given her after Jesus ascension. She was inconsequential to them.

Not only did Jesus say that those who would believe on Him would be more blessed than Mary but no elevated status is given her in any writings of the Apostles and only after 300 years is any mention given here.

The entire Mariology myth is based on nothing but hearsay and embellished imaginings told and retold over the centuries. The only written record from Bible times of the “bodily assumption of a “queen of heaven” is pagan.

663 posted on 01/07/2012 6:29:36 AM PST by CynicalBear
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