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To: rzman21
If it weren’t for the testimonies of the Church Fathers against the Gnostic heretics and others you wouldn’t know the New Testament was God-breathed, so be thankful.

If God is able to provide His own Son as the Perfect Sacrifice for the sins of all mankind, I suspect He might be able to have predestined a method to communicate with believers who seek His fellowship, no matter what other humans do or don't perform.

He really doesn't have to rely on other people in the Church in order for His will to be fulfilled, although it does glorify the Son when all the members of His body work to glorify Him.

60 posted on 12/30/2011 8:47:18 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Cvengr

He really doesn’t have to rely on other people in the Church in order for His will to be fulfilled, although it does glorify the Son when all the members of His body work to glorify Him.

>>He doesn’t have to. But history shows that he has. How do you know that say the Gnostics weren’t right objectively speaking?

If the Church Fathers had no authority from God to say anything, how do you know that the Holy Spirit protected the New Testament and that we shouldn’t be running off to the nearest rabbi seeking to become Jewish?

If that Church Fathers were liars in their testimony for Christ then we should all convert to Judaism because without them there would not be any sort of objective witness to what is scripture and what isn’t.


67 posted on 12/30/2011 8:54:53 PM PST by rzman21
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