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To: CynicalBear

“That’s Solo Scriptura”

So then I do correctly understand Sola Scriptura.

“it’s not what the reformers believed.”

You’re telling me.

“This nonsense that Sola Scriptura is using the Bible alone needs to stop.”

That’s what it means. “Scripture Alone.” Not Scripture + Tradition.

“Luther said “unless I am convinced by Scripture...”. That simply means that all doctrine and beliefs must be supported by scripture.”

And what does the Catholic Church teach on this question? Let’s take a quick jaunt to the Catechism.

“For Holy Mother Church, relying on the faith of the apostolic age, accepts as sacred and canonical the books of the Old and the New Testaments, whole and entire, with all their parts, on the grounds that, written under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, they have God as their author, and have been handed on as such to the Church herself”

“Since therefore all that the inspired authors or sacred writers affirm should be regarded as affirmed by the Holy Spirit, we must acknowledge that the books of Scripture firmly, faithfully, and without error teach that truth which God, for the sake of our salvation, wished to see confided to the Sacred Scriptures”

“It doesn’t say that sources can’t be used to attempt to explain what scripture is saying.”

Oh, ok. So Tradition is important too?

“If a teaching cannot be found or supported in scripture it is not to be taken as God’s word for doctrine or dogma.”

The Trinity isn’t in Scripture.


487 posted on 01/05/2012 6:52:11 PM PST by BenKenobi
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To: BenKenobi
>>“It doesn’t say that sources can’t be used to attempt to explain what scripture is saying.”<<

So find teaching from Jesus or the Apostles of the bodily assumption of Mary. And don’t use that lame “others were so she “could” have been.

>>The Trinity isn’t in Scripture.<<

Oh what total nonsense. Are you saying the RCC made it up?

1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

John 10:30 I and my Father are one.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

John 1:14 And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we saw His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth.

And there are others that prove the Trinity.

Now for the bodily assumption of Mary. I can’t seem to find any scripture to prove that. I’m sure you would be so kind as to point to book, chapter and verse as I have done with the Trinity.

488 posted on 01/05/2012 7:16:11 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: BenKenobi; CynicalBear
The Trinity isn’t in Scripture.

Then why does the Catholic church teach it to be true?

490 posted on 01/05/2012 7:44:12 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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