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Polygamous family launches challenge of Utah law
FoxNews/AP ^ | Dec. 19, 2011

Posted on 12/30/2011 5:23:14 AM PST by Colofornian

Edited on 12/30/2011 5:44:11 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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TOPICS: Current Events; Moral Issues; Other non-Christian; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: apostolicunited; beyondgaymarriage; flds; inman; islam; mormon; polygamy; sharia
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To: ravenwolf

They have already been declared to be constitutional by SCOTUS.

Let me guess, you are a Ron Paul fan aren’t you?


121 posted on 12/31/2011 12:09:04 PM PST by reaganaut (Mormonism is all about glory to self, not Glory to God. - which explains Mitt Romney)
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To: ravenwolf

Wow, that is taken completely out of context. Nowhere in the Bible does God command polygamy. Bible verses on marriage, however, only mention ONE HUSBAND AND ONE WIFE.

Matthew 19:4-6
“Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’ and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’ ? So they are no longer two, but one. Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate.”

1 Corinthians 7:1
Now for the matters you wrote about: It is good for a man not to marry. But since there is so much immorality, each man should have his own wife, and each woman her own husband.

1 Timothy 3:2

“A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach.

I can give you more.


122 posted on 12/31/2011 12:15:06 PM PST by reaganaut (Mormonism is all about glory to self, not Glory to God. - which explains Mitt Romney)
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To: svcw

“Personally I just don’t get it. Most of the men I know can barley deal with one wife, why would they want more.”


Because the “most” men you likely know treat women as at least an approximate equal, as opposed to a second class servant. Certain men, especially in LDS circles, are tantalized by the idea of multiple sex servants, both here and in the hereafter.

Odd that even in “mainstream” LDS practice (its in the rulebook) that LDS men can be sealed to multiple women. Women? No no no!


123 posted on 12/31/2011 12:22:02 PM PST by freedomlover (Make sure you're in love - before you move in the heavy stuff)
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To: svcw

Then where do you put it?


I am not sure that i can ever put it into right or wrong because the Bible tells me what right and wrong is and i know it is true because when i get into trouble it is because i have done something the Bible says not to do.

But i can not at all compare it to homosexualism because the Bible says in very plain words that that is an abomination.

There are some scriptures that point to some people that polygamy may be forbidden, but nothing in plain words, of course these people will say that they know that it is forbidding polygamy but i do not know that it is.

Abraham had a wife and she gave him her handmaiden as a concubine,

Jacob had two wives and each of them gave him their handmaidens for concubines, if it had not been exceptable to god i think we would be able to read about it in the scriptures.


124 posted on 12/31/2011 12:26:08 PM PST by ravenwolf (reIf you believe that Nero was the anti-Christ, and among othJust a bit of the long list of proofsre)
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To: dragonblustar

The real problem is when men start thinking about their penises and having rights over the the betterment of society and women.


I was there first, that is basically just what i said, so where was i wrong? maybe you read it to fast.


125 posted on 12/31/2011 12:30:18 PM PST by ravenwolf (reIf you believe that Nero was the anti-Christ, and among othJust a bit of the long list of proofsre)
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To: svcw

Really? Learn some historical context.


Be glad to, just tell me what subject you want me to read.


126 posted on 12/31/2011 12:33:06 PM PST by ravenwolf (reIf you believe that Nero was the anti-Christ, and among othJust a bit of the long list of proofsre)
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To: reaganaut

To: ravenwolf

They have already been declared to be constitutional by SCOTUS.

Let me guess, you are a Ron Paul fan aren’t you?


You must have me mixed up with some one else, i have not mentioned Scotus, don,t even know who he is.


127 posted on 12/31/2011 12:39:43 PM PST by ravenwolf (reIf you believe that Nero was the anti-Christ, and among othJust a bit of the long list of proofsre)
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To: reaganaut

Wow, that is taken completely out of context. Nowhere in the Bible does God command polygamy. Bible verses on marriage, however, only mention ONE HUSBAND AND ONE WIFE.


Where did i say that God commanded polygamy, i am afraid you are mixed up.


128 posted on 12/31/2011 12:44:04 PM PST by ravenwolf (reIf you believe that Nero was the anti-Christ, and among othJust a bit of the long list of proofsre)
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To: reaganaut

Thanks so much for the ping—been out of commission the past few days, and would have missed this.


129 posted on 12/31/2011 6:19:33 PM PST by MizSterious (Apparently, there's no honor when it comes to someone else's retirement funds.)
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To: ravenwolf

Well, lets see you posted Bible verses and said it may only be wrong for one person not another.

The implication is that polygamy is ok with God.


130 posted on 12/31/2011 6:29:45 PM PST by reaganaut (Mormonism is all about glory to self, not Glory to God. - which explains Mitt Romney)
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To: MizSterious

No problem. Hope you are feeling better. Happy New Year!


131 posted on 12/31/2011 6:31:04 PM PST by reaganaut (Mormonism is all about glory to self, not Glory to God. - which explains Mitt Romney)
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To: Pebcak; reaganaut

As if proof mattered to these cultists. You could show them the pictures of the battered children and wives, you could show them the evidence of all the welfare fraud (and it’s lots more than “a few” cases), and they’d still find excuses for this evil behavior.


132 posted on 12/31/2011 6:34:14 PM PST by MizSterious (Apparently, there's no honor when it comes to someone else's retirement funds.)
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To: ravenwolf

SCOTUS is Supreme Court Of the US.


133 posted on 12/31/2011 6:36:52 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: ravenwolf

So if there are unwed mothers, then polygamy should be ok? Sort of like saying, if we let someone off for robbery, then murder should be legal. Makes no sense.


134 posted on 12/31/2011 6:40:27 PM PST by MizSterious (Apparently, there's no honor when it comes to someone else's retirement funds.)
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To: MizSterious

The solution is to end welfare, not have the Government tell consenting adults how to order their lives.


135 posted on 12/31/2011 6:41:06 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: ravenwolf
"Polygamy is as old as prostitution, and murder. "

And just about as virtuous.

136 posted on 12/31/2011 6:48:05 PM PST by MizSterious (Apparently, there's no honor when it comes to someone else's retirement funds.)
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To: Lurker

Then society should...oh wait, society has already spoken about polygamy, and found it unacceptable. And for so many good reasons. Not that they would matter to you—apparently you either belong to or support some of these vile sects that practice this. The women end up being sex slaves, literally bartered and sometimes sold to other men, often at ages under 10. The boys get kicked out on the street so as not to be competition for the drooling old child molesting geezers. This is NO life for civilized people. This is no life for Christians.


137 posted on 12/31/2011 6:55:22 PM PST by MizSterious (Apparently, there's no honor when it comes to someone else's retirement funds.)
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To: MizSterious

I told you we had a live one...


138 posted on 12/31/2011 7:09:04 PM PST by reaganaut (Mormonism is all about glory to self, not Glory to God. - which explains Mitt Romney)
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To: MizSterious

The way my wife and I choose to live our lives is none of your business as long as we aren’t directly harming anyone else or using force or fraud.

You and your Nanny State busybody friends are wrong and you always will be. End the Welfare State and 90% of the crap you claim to be so concerned about goes away.

The rest of your incoherent ramblings are childish and silly. And for the record, we are not Mormons.


139 posted on 12/31/2011 7:17:55 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Lurker

If you want to live like a barbarian, maybe you should go live in some country that allows it, like maybe Iran. You’d fit right in.


140 posted on 12/31/2011 8:46:22 PM PST by MizSterious (Apparently, there's no honor when it comes to someone else's retirement funds.)
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