Posted on 12/23/2011 3:27:33 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
Will Paul get fellow nazi David Duke to lead his Jewish outreach program?
Yawn!
Paul is going nowhere.
Palin on the other hand has a close personal friendship with the conservative Israeli leadership.
Even if not a factor, I can’t tell from the article why Jews would reject Gov. Palin.
And I still don’t know why any Jew would support barry, who clearly wants to finish through the back door what Hitler started: the end of Jews, starting with Israel.
>> “And I still don’t know why any Jew would support barry, who clearly wants to finish through the back door what Hitler started: the end of Jews, starting with Israel.” <<
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I believe simply because so many US Jews have been conditioned to Marxist socialism.
majority of US jews are socialists who tend to vote Democrats, just like the black population, so its not surprising if US jews vote against Palin. It got nothing to do with their religion or skin color, but their economic ideology
Maybe there are just a lot of folks who don’t like her.
Religion or Ideology or Class be damned.
Can you accept the fact that maybe Her Highness isn’t universally liked?
Seems like over-analysis.
Jews naturally associate public Christianity with anti-Semitism. It’s not personal. Right or wrong, Ron Paul is portrayed as much more secular in outlook than Sarah Palin.
And Jews are likely to see a certain amount of anti-Semitism in any non-Jewish culture. So the preference for Democrats may just be because Jews are numerous and influential there despite obvious anti-Semitism, while Jewish Republicans are still relatively rare.
Palin went out of her way to show utter support for Israel. This article is only talking about liberal Jews who wouldn’t vote McCain because of palin. They must be liberals first, economic repubs second. A true conservative Jew would have known that palin was mre on outside than the majority of our coreligionists.
Paul is an anti-Semite. If he wins Iowa, Jews will stay away from that state.
Core tion:
Palin was more on our side
Is it true that Paul converted to Islam? I’ve heard that rumor, and sometimes his policy seems to be in line with that. Didn’t he say something like Christians deserved to be killed by Muslims?
Of course it must be true, what you say, that Dr. Paul he converted to islam, since only another believer could know such a thing.
And you, you effendi, would certainly not deceive, lie, nor bear false witness.
Oh Pulleeeezzzeee.
You are, hopefully, not stupid.
And the rest of us are, hopefully, not fools.
Look, if he's Muslim, he has the same right to be president as anyone else. But if he can't treat other religions equally, this is a problem.
Ron Paul is a neo-isolationist, not a Nazi. He appears to be antisemitic because his wacko foreign policy works to the disadvantage of Israel. But he has the utmost respect for several important (since deceased) Jewish intellectuals of the past in the libertarian movement, some of whom he had personal contact with - Ayn Rand, Murray Rothbard, Milton Friedman, Ludwig von Mises, Friedrich Hayek - and who influenced his economic views.
Even if that happens, Paul will not be the GOP candidate in November. It will be a pro-Israel Republican vs. the pro-Islamist Obama (with the possibility of Paul and/or Donald Trump and/or several others as third party candidates). What's more, the GOP platform will be decidedly more supportive of Israel's security than that of the Democrats, as it has been for several election cycles.
So any Jewish or pro-Israel voter who is not addicted to the label "Democrat" has no logical reason to even think of Ron Paul when he or she votes Republican for POTUS next year.
Sorry, Shmuel Rosner, your article is based upon what you dream will happen, not on political reality. So you're making a big to-do over next to nothing.
We need to realize that speaking of Jesus may score points with our SoCons, but does tend to drive Jews away.
The morals may be exactly the same, the source may be the same, but the simple act of saying Jesus tends to drive non-Republicans Jews away (ie: independents, as you ain’t going to pry many Democrats away from their party).
Maybe if candidates talked about the morals without mentioning the messagers, it might be more effective?
Or for that matter, simply talk about the fiscal and economic policies and leave the social bits out of the campaign?
Yep.
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Case in point, a modern Jewish joke. Please note that even today, despite America being pretty good about anti-semitism, Christianity still is associated with Jew-hatred. After centuries of it, you'll not be able to get rid of the association with just a few decades of goodwill (see the below joke for an example). Just look at the Russians, despite being free from Mongol rule for over 500 years, they *STILL* harbor a loathing of anything 'Mongol'.
Several centuries ago, the Pope decreed that all the Jews had to convert or leave Italy.
There was a huge outcry from the Jewish community, so the Pope offered a deal.
He would have a religious debate with the leader of the Jewish community.
If the Jews won, they could stay in Italy. If the Pope won, they would have to leave.
The Jewish people met and picked an aged but wise Rabbi, Moishe, to represent them in the debate. Rabbi Moishe, however refused, saying it was no use and the Jews might as well start packing. The people were distraught.
Out of the weeping and wailing, a voice was heard. It was Yakel saying "I will do it".
The people said "you Yakel? you are just a dumb schmuck. How could you, who cannot even read the Torah, face the pope?"
"It is either me or move," replied Yakel.
So the people agreed.
However, as Yakel spoke no Italian and the Pope spoke no Yiddish, they all agreed that it would be a 'silent' debate.
On the chosen day, the Pope and Yakel sat opposite each other for a full minute before the Pope raised his hand and showed three fingers. Yakel looked back and raised one finger.
Next the Pope waved his finger around his head. Yakel pointed to the ground where he sat.
The Pope then brought out a communion wafer and a chalice of wine. Yakel pulled out an apple.
With that, the Pope stood up and declared that he was beaten, that Yakel was too clever and that the Jews could stay.
Later, the Cardinals met with the Pope, asking what had happened.
The Pope said, "First I held up three fingers to represent the Trinity.
He responded by holding up one finger to remind me that there is still only one God common to both our beliefs.
"Then, I waved my finger to show him that God was all around us.
He responded by pointing to the ground to show that God was also right here with us.
"I pulled out the wine and wafer to show that God absolves us of all our sins.
He pulled out an apple to remind me of the original sin.
He had me beaten and I could not continue."
Meanwhile, the delirious Jewish community was gathered around Yakel.
What happened?" they asked.
"Well," said Yakel, "First he said to me that we had three days to get out of Italy, so I said to him, 'Up yours.'
"Then he tells me that the whole country would be cleared of Jews and I said to him, 'Mr. Pope, we're staying right here.' "
"And then what?" asked a woman.
"Who knows?" said Yakel. "He took out his lunch so I took out mine."
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