Posted on 12/23/2011 9:48:45 AM PST by Salvation
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Well...since you asked. Some people just have too much time on their hands!
Little known fact, Martha actually said no first and then the angel went to Mary.
The interesting question for me is what if Martha said yes?
I believe it is the wrong question altogether.
It is like asking: “If Mary had said ‘No’ would God have been surprised?”
Let’s try to think in terms of God and not in terms of finite Man — it got us in trouble since Adam and Eve.
You’ve got the wrong “Mary” I believe.
But Christ is true God as well as true Man.
Well there was Mary’s Immaculate Conception. How would that be if Mary said no?
No, you got the wrong Martha.
She really didn’t have a choice in the matter.
God chose Mary.
That be a pretty good point there
Scriptural references for this, please.
What IF... it didnt happen at all the way it is reported to have happened.. from conception to birth..
but in a miraculous way instead of a normal(natural) way..
A way worthy of a God not David Copperfield.. What if?..
How “it” happened was to convince Joseph and Mary not anyone else..
What if “there are no words” to explain how Jesus arrived on this planet..
So the first sound byte was invented.. a cover story..
How Jesus got here can be and is in some places a distraction(a diversion) to who Jesus “IS”..
meaning the spiritual Jesus not the flesh Jesus..
Wonder which republican candidate the spiritual Jesus is for NOW...
He may be for Barack Obama to punish America for abortion..
Oh, where to start?! First of all, Gabriel told Mary that she WILL give birth to th Savior. It was a done deal. No permission or assent was requested. Mary of course gave her assent anyway, and her faith and obedience is to be commended and emulated. But to suggest that she could have thwarted the redemptive plan of God is ludicrous, perhaps even heretical. It elevates a human above God. Second, following you reasoning, the same “hyperdulia” (worship lite?) should be given to the multitudes of Jesus’ ancestors who (by your logic) could have prevented the incarnation by disobedience and thus breaking the Davidic line. Take Noah, by your logic he is every bit as responsible for the appearance of the Messiah as Mary. No ark- no Jesus. Why no hyperdulia for poor Noah? Of course the fallacy here is that God cannot cary out His plan absent our obedience. Scripture is replete with examples of God carrying out His plan despite human disobedience and sin, even using sin to advance His plan. Mary was no different.
No references necessary. Its tradition which trumps scripture. Sure the tradition started 2,000 years after the fact but scripture must be interpreted by the traditions that began centuries and millennia after the events recorded in scripture.
I’m pretty sure God knew what Mary’s answer would be. After all, He IS omniscient.
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