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Following The Truth: What If Mary Said “No”? (Catholic or Open)
CE.com ^ | October 13th, 2009 | Gary Zimak

Posted on 12/23/2011 9:48:45 AM PST by Salvation

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Gary Zimak is the founder of Following The Truth Ministries (http://www.followingthetruth.com), a lay apostolate created to assist Catholics in learning more about their Faith. He is a regular guest on EWTN Radio’s “Son Rise Morning Show”, Ave Maria Radio’s “Catholic Connection with Teresa Tomeo” and appears frequently on several other Catholic radio programs.  In addition to writing for CatholicLane. Mr. Zimak hosts a daily program on BlogTalkRadio and posts frequently on his blog, Facebook and Twitter.  He is a member of Catholics United For The Faith and the Knights of Columbus and resides in New Jersey.


1 posted on 12/23/2011 9:48:49 AM PST by Salvation
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Catholic Ping!

Because of Mary's "Yes" we can say:

 
 
A blessed Christmas to all of you!

2 posted on 12/23/2011 9:52:23 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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3 posted on 12/23/2011 9:53:03 AM PST by narses
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4 posted on 12/23/2011 9:54:12 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: narses

Well...since you asked. Some people just have too much time on their hands!


5 posted on 12/23/2011 9:57:46 AM PST by old school
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"Is God smart enough not to make a rock so big that even He cannot move it?"
6 posted on 12/23/2011 10:04:29 AM PST by Alex Murphy (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2703506/posts?page=518#518)
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To: Salvation

Little known fact, Martha actually said no first and then the angel went to Mary.

The interesting question for me is what if Martha said yes?


7 posted on 12/23/2011 10:10:00 AM PST by Tramonto (Draft Palin)
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To: Salvation

I believe it is the wrong question altogether.

It is like asking: “If Mary had said ‘No’ would God have been surprised?”

Let’s try to think in terms of God and not in terms of finite Man — it got us in trouble since Adam and Eve.


8 posted on 12/23/2011 10:10:17 AM PST by 353FMG
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To: Tramonto

You’ve got the wrong “Mary” I believe.


9 posted on 12/23/2011 10:13:21 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: 353FMG

But Christ is true God as well as true Man.


10 posted on 12/23/2011 10:14:37 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Well there was Mary’s Immaculate Conception. How would that be if Mary said no?


11 posted on 12/23/2011 10:18:23 AM PST by ex-snook ("above all things, truth beareth away the victory")
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To: Salvation

No, you got the wrong Martha.


12 posted on 12/23/2011 10:20:00 AM PST by Tramonto (Draft Palin)
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To: Salvation

She really didn’t have a choice in the matter.

God chose Mary.


13 posted on 12/23/2011 10:23:12 AM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: ex-snook

That be a pretty good point there


14 posted on 12/23/2011 10:23:29 AM PST by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: Tramonto

Scriptural references for this, please.


15 posted on 12/23/2011 10:26:22 AM PST by ReformationFan
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To: Salvation

What IF... it didnt happen at all the way it is reported to have happened.. from conception to birth..
but in a miraculous way instead of a normal(natural) way..

A way worthy of a God not David Copperfield.. What if?..
How “it” happened was to convince Joseph and Mary not anyone else..
What if “there are no words” to explain how Jesus arrived on this planet..
So the first sound byte was invented.. a cover story..

How Jesus got here can be and is in some places a distraction(a diversion) to who Jesus “IS”..
meaning the spiritual Jesus not the flesh Jesus..

Wonder which republican candidate the spiritual Jesus is for NOW...
He may be for Barack Obama to punish America for abortion..


16 posted on 12/23/2011 10:27:49 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: Salvation

Oh, where to start?! First of all, Gabriel told Mary that she WILL give birth to th Savior. It was a done deal. No permission or assent was requested. Mary of course gave her assent anyway, and her faith and obedience is to be commended and emulated. But to suggest that she could have thwarted the redemptive plan of God is ludicrous, perhaps even heretical. It elevates a human above God. Second, following you reasoning, the same “hyperdulia” (worship lite?) should be given to the multitudes of Jesus’ ancestors who (by your logic) could have prevented the incarnation by disobedience and thus breaking the Davidic line. Take Noah, by your logic he is every bit as responsible for the appearance of the Messiah as Mary. No ark- no Jesus. Why no hyperdulia for poor Noah? Of course the fallacy here is that God cannot cary out His plan absent our obedience. Scripture is replete with examples of God carrying out His plan despite human disobedience and sin, even using sin to advance His plan. Mary was no different.


17 posted on 12/23/2011 10:40:46 AM PST by armydoc
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To: Tramonto
Source?
18 posted on 12/23/2011 10:55:36 AM PST by starlifter (Pullum sapit)
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To: ReformationFan; starlifter
Scriptural references for this, please.

No references necessary. Its tradition which trumps scripture. Sure the tradition started 2,000 years after the fact but scripture must be interpreted by the traditions that began centuries and millennia after the events recorded in scripture.

19 posted on 12/23/2011 11:07:22 AM PST by Tramonto (Draft Palin)
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To: Salvation

I’m pretty sure God knew what Mary’s answer would be. After all, He IS omniscient.


20 posted on 12/23/2011 11:12:15 AM PST by crosshairs (Liberalism is to truth, what east is to west.)
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