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To: caww
Well that would depend on what the scriptures say the church is...and according to these the church is defined as the body of believers in Christ...not in church. Jesus never said you cannot reject a church...It's rejection of Him.

Why is it catholics don't say "Catholic church" when referencing church? It's mis-leading to not do so for we know Catholics believe their church is the only church who "owns" the truth...and many Christians disagree with you on that matter.

Christ only created one Church. The legacy of the Reformation is the legacy of the splitter and quitter. If you split and quit, you have left the Church. Ergo, there is no need to further qualify the Church of Christ from the churches created (on a daily basis) by men.

Anti Catholics here claim that there are different denominations within the Church. No, there aren't. The furniture may be different, but doctrine and the Eucharist are the same. We don't get to create Christianity; we may either believe it or no. That belief is what separates us from non Christians.

157 posted on 12/26/2011 5:17:37 PM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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To: MarkBsnr
The legacy of the Reformation is the legacy of the splitter and quitter. If you split and quit, you have left the Church.

Of course we'll disagree on this Mark, For I see the Reformation as God removing the true believers from the paganism which the leadership within the church had brought in and refused to rid itself of. Big difference between "quitting and splitting".

Had the church done as God required of it then the history may have played out differently. But the reality is the church refused to act on what God clearly stated and thus He acted by raising up those who were willing to do as HE required....unfortunately the leadership continued to resist and so the natural outcome would be the Reformation as it did play out.

Unfortunately to this very day the catholic leadership continues to resist..in fact it often appears to me God has simply allowed sin to run it's course within the catholic church which we see and know the evidences of today.

Personally I would prefer to think more highly of the catholis church as I do believe their are some believers within it. With this I do believe those who truly desire to grow in their relatiosnship with Christ will either leave or become an instrument in God's hands to show others within the catholic church their deep errors.

I do know there are those who see the catholic church as a misssion field and are within the church to do just that among those who believe.

So we will differ on just exactly what the catholic church is about...and I am convinced it serves Rome and it's leadership for power and authority... and they have nothing to do whatsoever with the true worship of Jesus Christ...at best lip service.

167 posted on 12/27/2011 12:13:00 PM PST by caww
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