Posted on 12/02/2011 4:44:38 PM PST by Discoshaman
Communities across the nation are taking Christianity and Islam—two diametrically opposed theologies—and working to blend them together.
“Chrislam, as the name suggests, is a growing movement wherein some Christians are seeking to find common ground with Muslims,” explains theologian Bill Muehlenberg of the doctrine that began in Nigeria in the 1980s. “Indeed, it actually seeks to combine Christianity with Islam.”
Chrislam has gained significant momentum since the seed was planted nearly three decades ago. Earlier this year Christian communities in Dallas, Chicago, Washington, D.C, and other cities placed Qurans in church pews—right alongside Bibles—and preached about the Prophet Muhammad.
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Christian communities in Dallas, Chicago, Washington, D.C, and other cities placed Qurans in church pews
Exactly who is doing this?
The Great Apostasy?
Salt Lake City, Wasatch Presbyterian Church
...the National Cathedral in Washington D.C....
...*Christ Church in New York City
*All Saints Church in Pasadena, California
*Park Hill Congregational in Denver
*Hillview United Methodist in Boise, Idaho
*First United Lutheran in San Francisco
*St. Elizabeth’s Episcopal Church in Honolulu...
It’s already starting to gain traction here . The great apostasy is starting to take place . God is letting them believe the lie since they do not believe his WORD .
Eventually real believers in this country will have to practice their faith in small groups in hiding just like they have had to everywhere else .
The church age is only until the last gentile comes to faith , then God turns his sights back to Israel . Israels eyes are starting to be open ... not long ago Israel’s oldest Orthodox Rabbi left a piece of paper with the name of the Messiah on it that he asked it not to be opened until a year after his death (in their custom you are not suppose to speak bad about the departed for the first year of their passing ) The name he wrote on the paper was Yeshua /Yehoshua (Jesus)
They forget two interrelates important teachings.
First:
2 Tim 3:16
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
KJV
Which validates the second, oft forgotten, though very important, Scripture:
2 John 7-11
7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
8 Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward.
9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.
KJV
NEVER invite Satan and his doctrines into your church; he'll (mis)use the Scriptures to pervert your congregation's teachings; you will NOT convert him.
I think it’s always good to be skeptical. I do know that Phil Johnson, whose writings have always been sound, has done some writing on the subject.
Also, it’s undeniable that it’s gained some traction in Africa, particularly Nigeria. The syncretistic movement originated in Nigeria, for obvious political/sociological reasons...
Exactly! And churches aren’t allowed in Saudi Arabia and Christians aren’t allowed in Mecca. Islam is interested in submission, by definition, not accommodation.
7 For many deceivers are gone forth into the world, even they that confess not that Jesus Christ cometh in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the antichrist. [Return to Original Document] RSV 7: For many deceivers have gone out into the world, men who will not acknowledge the coming of Jesus Christ in the flesh; such a one is the deceiver and the antichrist.
NRSV 7 Many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who do not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh; any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist!
Douay 7 For many seducers are gone out into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh: this is a seducer and an antichrist.
KJV 7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
WEB 7 For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who don't confess that Jesus Christ came in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the Antichrist.
ESV 7 For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who do not confess the coming of Jesus Christ in the flesh. Such a one is the deceiver and the antichrist.
NASB 7 For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh This is the deceiver and the antichrist.
NIV 7 Many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist.
YOUNG 7 because many leading astray did enter into the world, who are not confessing Jesus Christ coming in flesh; this one is he who is leading astray, and the antichrist.
Greek 7: oti <3754> {BECAUSE} polloi <4183> {MANY} planoi <4108> {DECEIVERS} eishlqon <1525> (5627) {ENTERED} eiV <1519> {INTO} ton <3588> {THE} kosmon <2889> {WORLD,} oi <3588> {THOSE WHO} mh <3361> omologounteV <3670> (5723) {DO NOT CONFESS} ihsoun <2424> {JESUS} criston <5547> {CHRIST} ercomenon <2064> (5740) {COMING} en <1722> {IN} sarki <4561> {FLESH} outoV <3778> {THIS} estin <2076> (5748) {IS} o <3588> {THE} planoV <4108> {DECEIVER} kai <2532> {AND} o <3588> {THE} anticristoV <500> {ANTICHRIST.}
Vulgate 7 quoniam multi seductores exierunt in mundum qui non confitentur Iesum Christum venientem in carne hic est seductor et antichristus
ASV 7 For many deceivers are gone forth into the world, even they that confess not that Jesus Christ cometh in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the antichrist.
Darby 7For many deceivers have gone out into the world, they who do not confess Jesus Christ coming in flesh -- this is the deceiver and the antichrist.
NKJV 7 For many deceivers have gone out into the world who do not confess Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
Other Related Passages
1 John 2 18: Children, it is the last hour; and as you have heard that antichrist is coming, so now many antichrists have come; therefore we know that it is the last hour.
1 John 2 19: They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us; but they went out, that it might be plain that they all are not of us.
1 John 2 26: I write this to you about those who would deceive you;
1 John 4 1: Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are of God; for many false prophets have gone out into the world.
1 John 4 2: By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit which confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God,
Library References
Irenaeus of Lyons [120-180 AD]
Adversus Haereses (Book III, Chapter 16)
8. All, therefore, are outside of the [Christian] dispensation, who, under pretext of knowledge, understand that Jesus was one, and Christ another, and the Only-begotten another, from whom again is the Word, and that the Saviour is another, whom these disciples of error allege to be a production of those who were made Aeons in a state of degeneracy. Such men are to outward appearance sheep; for they appear to be like us, by what they say in public, repeating the same words as we do; but inwardly they are wolves.
Their doctrine is homicidal, conjuring up, as it does, a number of gods, and simulating many Fathers, but lowering and dividing the Son of God in many ways. These are they against whom the Lord has cautioned us beforehand; and His disciple, in his Epistle already mentioned, commands us to avoid them, when he says:
"For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist. Take heed to them, that ye lose not what ye have wrought."
And again does he say in the Epistle: "Many false prophets are gone out into the world. Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God; and every spirit which separates Jesus Christ is not of God, but is of antichrist."
These words agree with what was said in the Gospel, that "the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us."
Wherefore he again exclaims in his Epistle, "Every one that believeth that Jesus is the Christ, has been born of God;" knowing Jesus Christ to be one and the same, to whom the gates of heaven were opened, because of His taking upon Him flesh: who shall also come in the same flesh in which He suffered, revealing the glory of the Father. [Read More]
Augustine of Hippo, St [354-430 AD]
Homily 6 on the First Epistle of John
12. There remains then the test by which it is to be proved to be the Spirit of God. He has indeed set down a sign, and this, be-like, difficult: let us see, however. We are to recur to that charity; it is that which teacheth us, because it is the unction.
However, what saith he here? "Prove the spirits, whether they be from God: because many false prophets have gone out into this world."
Now there are all heretics and all schismatics. How then am I to prove the spirit? He goes on: "In this is known the Spirit of God." Wake up the ears of your heart. We were at a loss; we were saying, Who knows? who discerns? Behold, he is about to tell the sign. "Hereby is known the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: and every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is the antichrist, of whom ye have heard that he should come; and even now already is he in this world."
Our ears, so to say, are on the alert for discerning of the spirits; and we have been told something, such that thereby we discern not a whir the more.
For what saith he? "Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ came in the flesh, is of God."
Then is the spirit that is among the heretics, of God, seeing they "confess that Jesus Christ came in the flesh"?
Aye, here perchance they lift themselves up against us, and say: Ye have not the Spirit from God; but we confess "that Jesus Christ came in the flesh:" but the apostle here hath said that those have not the Spirit of God, who confess not "that Jesus Christ came in the flesh."
Ask the Arians: they confess "that Jesus Christ came in the flesh:" ask the Eunomians; they confess "that Jesus Christ came in the flesh:" ask the Macedonians; they confess "that Jesus Christ came in the flesh:" put the question to the Cataphryges; they confess "that Jesus Christ came in the flesh:" put it to the Novatians; they confess "that Jesus Christ came in the flesh." Then have all these heresies the Spirit of God? Are they then no false prophets? Is there then no deception there, no seduction there? Assuredly they are antichrists; for "they went out from us, but were not of us." [Read More]
Haydock, Fr. George Leo [1774-1849 AD]
2 John 1
Ver. 7. Many seducers are gone out into the world; antichrists, who confess not Christ to have come in the flesh. These were the disciples of Simon, the Cerinthians, Ebionites, & . See 1 John ii. 18. (Witham) [Read More] Catholic Encyclopedia Antichrist St. John supposes in his Epistles that the early Christians are acquainted with the teaching concerning the coming of Antichrist. "You have heard that Antichrist cometh" (1 John 2:18); "This is Antichrist, of whom you have heard that he cometh" (1 John 4:3). Though the Apostle speaks of several Antichrists, he distinguishes between the many and the one principal agent: "Antichrist cometh, even now there are become many Antichrists" (1 John 2:18). Again, the writer outlines the character and work of Antichrist: "They went out from us, but they were not of us" (1 John 2;19); "Who is a liar, but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is Antichrist, who denies the Father, and the Son" (1 John 2:22); "And every spirit that dissolveth Jesus, is not of God; and this is Antichrist" (1 John 4:3); "For many seducers are gone out into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh: this is a seducer and an Antichrist" (2 John 7). Also the time, the Apostle places the coming of Antichrist at "the last hour" (1 John 2:18); again he maintains that "he is now already in the world" (1 John 4:3). [Read More] Christendom, Union of To claim this wonderful unity as distinctive of the followers of Jesus Christ in the Apostolic days is not to forget that there were sad exceptions to the general rule. There were indeed no rival communions then which, whilst claiming to be Christian, were maintained in formal opposition to the Church of the Apostles. It is expressly stated by Tertullian (Adv. Marcion., IV, v) that the Marcionites, in the middle of the second century, were the first who, when expelled from the Church Catholic, created an opposition Church for the expression of their peculiar views. Before that time the dissentients contented themselves with forming parties and schools of thought, and of this mode of separation, which sufficed to put men outside the Church, we find clear traces in the New-Testament writings together with predictions that the evil thus originating would become more pronounced in after times. Men of what would nowadays be called independent temperament were dissatisfied with the Apostles' teaching in some particulars, and refused to accept it without further warrant than the mere "word of an Apostle." Thus we may gather from the Epistle to the Galatians that, in spite of the decision of the Council of Jerusalem, there continued to be a party which insisted that the observance of the Jewish Law was obligatory on Gentile Christians, and from the Epistle to the Colossians that there was likewise a Jewish party, probably of Hellenistic origin, which mingled insistence on Jewish legalities with a superstitious worship of the angels (Col., ii, 18). At Ephesus we may detect the adepts of an incipient Gnosticism in St. Paul's warnings against giving heed to "fables and endless genealogies" (I Tim., i, 4) and against "profane and vain babblings and oppositions of 'gnosis' falsely so-called" (I Tim., vi, 20). Hymeneus and Alexander are mentioned by name as denying the resurrection of the flesh at the last day (II Tim., ii, l8. Cf. I Cor., xv, 12). St. John, in the Apocalypse (ii, 6, 15), tells us of the Nicolaites who seem to have fallen into some kind of Oriental admixture of immorality with worship, and in his second Epistle (verse 7. Cf. I John, iv, 2) he warns his readers that many "deceivers are entered into the world" who confess not that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh, which the church historians refer to the Docetism of Cerinthus. [Read More]
He was showing love towards the iraq muslums who helped Christians( catholic or independent protestant). Remember they lived under a dictatorship. He did not agree with the Koran. Historical spiritual events were happening. Relax. If he refused to meet there could be died christians. There so much going on the world then a simplistic reaction.
Christians and muslim common ground??
Did not know Christians killed their daughters for wearing jeans. Who knew!
All I did was post a picture. Now it happens to be a picture of a man who claimed to lead God's Church on Earth kissing a Satanic tome, but that's his personal choice. Your justification that his actions were tied to the lives of Christians in Iraq seems a stretch.
Relax.
Pray more get oil for their lamps quickly
I googled it and couldn’t find much.
Nobody should expect you to, as its something that poster coined him/herself. It's a blending of "Quisling", and "Islam", and quite appropriate, as far as I can see...
the infowarrior
The Catholic "church" teaches, and many mistakenly believe, that Judaism, Islam and Christianity worship the same God. Not according to the Bible:
1 John 2:22, 23 -- Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
Jesus Christ is God. If one doesn't believe that Jesus is God, he will die in his sins. (Isaiah 43:10, John 8:24)
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