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To: ottbmare

Clearly our own insights as individuals aren’t very accurate.

But clearly the protection of the Roman Church isn’t sufficient since all matter of nonsense has and does come out of the Vatican.


28 posted on 11/28/2011 9:05:36 AM PST by DManA
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To: DManA

“protection of the Roman Church”

Oxymoron. There is no such thing. Unless they have panic buttons in the confessionals now....


31 posted on 11/28/2011 9:09:08 AM PST by JohnC2004
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To: DManA
Clearly our own insights as individuals aren’t very accurate. But clearly the protection of the Roman Church isn’t sufficient since all matter of nonsense has and does come out of the Vatican.

I'm not referring to the transient words of individual Catholic priests or of some unofficial statement of some guy in some department of the Vatican, but to the official doctrine of the Catholic Church. That's definite, it's not nonsense, and it was hammered out by painstaking effort over the millenia through the discourse of brilliant and God-filled men. Its premises are actually quite logical, not nonsensical. It's a solid guide.

Full disclosure: I was raised as a Protestant and educated as a scientist, so until two years ago I thought the Catholic Church was full of superstitious nonsense, too. Then I began studying the doctrines with great rigor. It was amazing to find the clear logic behind everything I'd been taught to regard as stupid.

39 posted on 11/28/2011 9:42:07 AM PST by ottbmare (off-the-track Thoroughbred mare)
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To: DManA

**all matter of nonsense has and does come out of the Vatican.**

Doesn’t all matter of nonsense come from all denominations?

At least Catholics will not ever accept in their denomination:

same-sex marriage
contraception
abortion
embryonic stem-cell research
euthaniasia

BTW, those are all mortal sins if done with your full knowledge and consent.


47 posted on 11/28/2011 10:42:19 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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