Posted on 11/28/2011 8:12:49 AM PST by Salvation
unofficial statement of some guy in some department of the Vatican,
I know, I hear that defense every time some cocamamey document gets released from Rome. Well these idiot department are seen as important enough to spend valuable capital on. They get letter head with the word Vatican on them. They represent thinking that is going on behind all those closed doors. They represent one path the future Church could go down.
BTW, I congratulate you on finding a church home you feel comfortable in. Keep your eyes on the Prize. God bless.
“Full disclosure: I was raised as a Protestant and educated as a scientist, so until two years ago I thought the Catholic Church was full of superstitious nonsense, too. Then I began studying the doctrines with great rigor. It was amazing to find the clear logic behind everything I’d been taught to regard as stupid.”
Interesting. Perhaps you can answer the following for me. (I haven’t been able to get a clear answer from a Catholic yet.)
On what does the Catholic church base it’s claim to authority?
Serious question.
“band of theology studs would have torn the scripture references in the article, to pieces....”
I think we’re still trying to recover from the shock of seeking a Catholic make an appeal from Scripture.
Every Catholic who attends Mass should purchase a copy of Dr. Ted Sri’s book, The Mass. In this one book, Dr. Sri explains in detail how every part of the celebration of the Mass is derived from the Bible. For me, it has brought new meaning to what I put into, and what I get out of, every Mass that I attend.
Only you can answer the question about being bound for eternal life or eternal damnation.
If you die with a mortal sin on your soul — without having gone to the Sacrament of Penance/Confession and repented of it — then it is your choice.
FYI, once you have confessed your sins and been forgiven by GOD in the Sacrament of Penance, God forgets that sin.
Do you know the actual words of absolution?
**all matter of nonsense has and does come out of the Vatican.**
Doesn’t all matter of nonsense come from all denominations?
At least Catholics will not ever accept in their denomination:
same-sex marriage
contraception
abortion
embryonic stem-cell research
euthaniasia
BTW, those are all mortal sins if done with your full knowledge and consent.
....Or if not that, and if there is a such a book, is there a book about the Catholic mass for “dummies” ?
I will do a search for such a book, besides the one by Dr. Sri.
Are you confusing the word “protection” with grace?
Grace comes from Christ through the Sacraments he instituted.
Baptism
Confirmation
Eucharist
Reconciliation
Anointing of the Sick
Matrimony
Holy Orders
**(ok...I’m trolling just a bit!)**
LOL! Havew you learned anything yet?
I guess you don’t understand the inspiration of the Holy Spirit and all the prayer done there.
So sorry.
Here is the URL about the Catholic mass for dummies:
ROTFLOL!
It is included in the First Commandment instead.
I am the Lord thy God; thou shalt have no false gods before me.
Serious answer: Jesus said of and to Peter, “You are Peter, and upon this rock I will build My Church, and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it.” And Peter took it from there, preaching throughout the Mediterranean and eventually serving in the primacy in Rome. For fifteen hundred years afterward there was no other church (the Latin church includes all of the Eastern churches as part of the same body). There is no record of Jesus coming back to earth and saying, “I changed My mind, the deal with Peter is off.” The Catholic Church and its leaders are descended in a direct line from Peter who was assigned by Jesus.
Thanks for your testimony about Sri’s book, “A Biblical Walk through the Mass.”
I loved it and thought it only lacking in the Nicene Creed part, which, I guess had not been totally firmed up when he wrote the book.
I loved it and thought it only lacking in the Nicene Creed part, which, I guess had not been totally firmed up when he wrote the book.
Editing that -- the new translation had not been totally firmed up, because his book uses all the new translations.
And yet the ‘greatest’ theologians came to conclusions based on their own reading and understanding. I will take the KJV translation as being done with utmost care and thoughtful prayer. Not all great theologians are from the church of Rome
Another book is “What Happens at Mass” by Father Jeremy Driscoll.
What is so great about Sri’s book, though, is that it is for dummies like me — very easy to understand and reference back to the Bible.
Please understand that Catholics do not worship these images or statues. They are art and are inspiring to those who wish to pray or ask for prayers from a certain saint.
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