Following the Truth: A Biblical Roadmap To The One, True Church (Catholic or Open)

CatholicLane.com ^ | May 12, 2011 | Gary Zimak

[PetroniusMaximus]

“When we kneel, we are praying to God and we are asking Mary, the woman God chose to be the vessel in which He would begin to live as man, to join her prayers to ours.”

That is not always the case, my friend. Many prayers, sanctioned by the RCC, are not asking Mary to pray for the petitioner, they are asking Mary to grant out of her own store of grace the answer to some need.

THAT is prayer TO Mary.

She is the one answering the prayer. She is dispensing the goods.

There are even prayers to lesser saints asking them to intercede to Mary on behalf of the petitioner. That’s even more layers of mediation. When does it stop?

The disciples were clear. There is only ONE mediator between God and man.

[Squidpup]

Are you doubting my salvation as well?

[stuartcr]

I agree

[Salvation]

And were you aware that in some of the early fathers’s writings that the apostles were transported miraculously to Mary’s bedside as she died?

[Salvation]

Your salvation is your business.

I just know that my sins are forgiven and forgotten because God is the one who forgives them.

 

1449 The formula of absolution used in the Latin Church expresses the essential elements of this sacrament: the Father of mercies is the source of all forgiveness. He effects the reconciliation of sinners through the Passover of his Son and the gift of his Spirit, through the prayer and ministry of the Church:

God, the Father of mercies,
through the death and the resurrection of his Son
has reconciled the world to himself
and sent the Holy Spirit among us
for the forgiveness of sins;
through the ministry of the Church
may God give you pardon and peace,
and I absolve you from your sins in the name of the Father, and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.

It is sad that many are not interested in delving into the grace provided by the Sacrament of Reconciliation/Penance.

[Salvation]

Still no one has refuted the tenets of all the Scripture in the article.

Amd I’m still in one piece ready to post another post in the series tomorrow. LOL!

[stuartcr]

There are no non-Christians in heaven?

[Country Gal]

There have been plenty of refutes. You just don’t want to see them. I’ve posted numerous scriptures. Just the same tactic that the liberals use. Very sad.

[verga]

So you are saying that the Catholic church base it’s claim to authority on the Scripture?

Scriptures are one of the three legs of the stool we stand on. along with Sacred Tradition and the the Authority of the Magesterium. Did you actually read the verses I quoted to you, and are you going to admit that I supplied those exact same verses to YOU on at least 5 previous occasions?

[verga]

That’s very often the crux of catholic argument, “You non catholics are simply too STUPID to understand our position!” You do understand the difference between ignorant and stupid? I clearly used the word IGNORANT.

You realize that’s the same argument the Leftist and liberals use.

YOU realize that misquoting is also a tactic that leftists and liberals use. This is the second time in the same thread that YOU have done that to me.

[verga]

The last Mass that I was at (and it’s been the same for the prior masses, too btw), people would do some sort of curtsie thing before even sitting down. While doing so, they would look at a statue of Mary and make the sign of the Cross. Sure looked like bowing, or at least curtsying, to me

Pay attention I should only have to say this once. They were "bowing down" in the direction of the tabernacle. Catholics believe Jesus was being literal when He said "This is my body" That body is reserved in the Tabernacle. I am certain that you would agree that it is proper to bow down before Jesus correct?

[Nifster]

Luther did not do the translation for the KJV

[RoadTest]

“I think you mean, “that’s what the Council of Trent taught,” don’t you? Because the Council took place in the mid-sixteenth century. Other councils, Vatican I and Vatican II, have taken place since and have clarified doctrinal points.”

Those doctrines have not been rescinded.

[RoadTest]

“Please quit saying that the non-Catholics are not posting scriptural references. We are. You are just refusing to acknowledge them.

Please answer me about the omission of the 2nd commandment. I’m curious as to how this passes the smell test for most Catholics.”

GOOD FOR YOU!

You’re telling the truth. They shuffled the Commandments like a peanut under three shells.

[raygunfan]

im not so concerned with our non-catholic brethern tossing out their scripture grenades for what the feel are some soft of proof texts...im asking why someone isnt taking the intial article and going down point by point to refute......good grief, even morons like obama have attempted to quote scripture, but when it lacks conherence, itz like watching the replies to this thread.....

[raygunfan]

im not so concerned with our non-catholic brethern tossing out their scripture grenades for what the feel are some sort of proof texts...im asking why someone isnt taking the intial article and going down point by point to refute......good grief, even morons like obama have attempted to quote scripture, but when it lacks conherence, itz like watching the replies to this thread.....

[Country Gal]

Thanks for the put-downs. I’ve not put anyone down. But I’ve been spoken down to often on this thread just because I disagree, and have posted evidence as to why.

Going to sarcasm and name calling (a.k.a. “morons”) doesn’t bode well for the Catholic position. But, from my experience, it’s the natural progression.

[Country Gal]

“Pay attention - I should only have to say this once”....

Yet another use of sarcasm to support the Catholic position.

[raygunfan]

i called obama a moron.....where are you finding that name-calling directed at you?

[raygunfan]

country, actually, the original article does an excellent job of supporting the catholic position, and my post still stands.....please, instead of grabbing the kjv or someother of the myriad of protestant versions of the bible, and grabbing quotes from whatever you feel supports your bible only, scripture only, my pastor is better than your pastor cause he agrees with my interpretation, and take the original article, and and go thru the scripture references there, and show them to be categorically wrong.....so far, no one has done that, and least of you....as you continue to play the victim card, as us big bad evil catholics attempt to hold you down....