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To: smvoice; CynicalBear
You make a salient point. If the belief in Mary's sinlessness, her ever virgin status, her assumption bodily into heaven, her necessary intercession for us and her status as Mother Of God were so critical for Christians to believe, then why is there NO Scriptural basis for any of those? The apostle John was given the duty to care for her after the Crucifixion and he died in old age many years after Mary would have died, yet he said NOTHING about those doctrines, not in the Gospel, not in his epistles nor in the book of Revelation. I don't know about you, but I would think that if those really WERE apostolic traditions why were they omitted from Holy Scripture? Why did it take hundreds of years later for the ideas to take root? If they are SO critical to the Christian faith, then why is Scripture silent?

Of course, Mary is an example to us of unflinching faith and, of course, we should honor her for her place as the mother of our Savior. We love her as a sister in the Lord and rejoice that one day we will meet her in Heaven. She is honored and respected without the mistake of placing her between us and Jesus. We will all be equal to each other in Heaven and we will give all glory and praise to him. There will BE no mother, father, husband or wife, but only brothers and sisters together in Christ. Only Jesus is our mediator with the Father and because of HIM we have received grace, mercy and forgiveness.

I think some people here confuse age or numbers or might to make something right, but God is the source for all truth and the Bible is his infallible authority gift to us his children. We should know by now that fallible men are not worthy of our unquestioning trust. That is why God gave us the Scriptures as well as the indwelling Holy Spirit who will lead us into all truth.

71 posted on 11/25/2011 5:45:34 PM PST by boatbums ( Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us. Titus 3:5)
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To: boatbums
and her status as Mother Of God were so critical for Christians to believe, then why is there NO Scriptural basis for any of those?

Do you believe that Jesus is God? Do you believe that Jesus was a human? Have you heard of the heresies that arose that denied this human nature?

How can one ignore over 1500 years of Christianity and have the conceit to believe that that whole time period was darkness and error?

As has so often been pointed out on so many threads, sola believers need to come to terms that they ignore the foundation that was laid by Christ for the building of His Church and have laid a different one.

I speak these words as one who did exactly that. It is what I was raised in. Came a time that I was blessed to lay aside my bigotry, admit to my ignorance and begin to look at the passages that I had NOT underlined in my Bible. And to figure out where my Bible actually came from.

83 posted on 11/25/2011 6:33:23 PM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever.)
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