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To: CynicalBear
CynicalBear says:
Nonsense. They are directly putting Mary in place of Jesus or the Holy Spirit.
really? You can read their minds? How did you do that?
16 posted on 11/25/2011 12:22:30 PM PST by narses (what you bind upon earth, shall be bound also in heaven; and what you loose upon earth, shall be ..)
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To: narses
Well, maybe we should break it down. Let’s take the prayer of Prayer of Pope Pius XII. [http://catholicism.about.com/od/tothevirginmary/qt/Honor_Immacula.htm]

I’ll use just the bolded excerpts from the prayer.

we cast ourselves into your arms

1 Peter 5:7 Casting all your care upon him; for he careth for you. (When did we need to replace God with Mary?)

confident of finding in your most loving heart appeasement of our ardent desires, and a safe harbor from the tempests which beset us on every side.

Hebrews 4:15-16 For we do not have a High Priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but was in all points tempted as we are, yet without sin. Let us therefore come boldly to the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy and find grace to help in time of need. (once again Catholics replacing Christ with Mary)

O crystal fountain of faith

Romans 12:3 according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith. or "a measure of faith." (but Mary is the “fountain of faith” for Catholics)

Lily of all holiness

1 Samuel 2:2 There is none holy as the LORD: for there is none beside thee: neither is there any rock like our God. (for Catholics however, “all holiness” is given to Mary)

Conqueress of evil and death

Hosea 13:14 I will ransom them from the power of the grave; I will redeem them from death: O death, I will be thy plagues; O grave, I will be thy destruction: repentance shall be hid from mine eyes. (but Catholics claim it was Mary who conquered death)

Convert the wicked

John 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. 8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: 9 Of sin, because they believe not on me; (Catholics have even replaced the Holy Spirit with Mary)

Statement by catholic Bishop Liqouri “.......We often more quickly obtain what we ask by calling on the name of Mary than by invoking that of Jesus.....” She...is our Salvation, our Life, our Hope, our Counsel, our Refuge, our Help”

Need I go on? Catholics have replaced virtually every attribute and working of God and given that to Mary in their worship.

20 posted on 11/25/2011 1:03:54 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: narses; metmom; CynicalBear; marbren
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Most folks are
--mature enough,
--informed enough,
--aware enough,
--sharp enough,
--discerning enough,
. . .

TO REALIZE

that BODY LANGUAGE AND ACTIONS are far

MORE RELIABLE

indicators of attitudes of the heart

than are mere words.

braving such cold to kowtow to/kiss such an OBJECT is a brazenly clear form of worship.

Certainly all the Buddhists and Hindus would understand it as such.

as does God.

Which part of

Do NOT BOW DOWN TO . . . [any such objects etc]

in Scripture do you not understand?

Or is it simple rebellion to God and His Word in favor of personal/organizational/cultish preferences?

Exodus 23:24 Do not bow down before their gods or worship them or ...

Do not bow down before their gods or worship them or follow their practices.
You must demolish them and break their sacred stones to pieces. ...
//bible.cc/exodus/23-24.htm - 16k

2 Kings 17:35 When the LORD made a covenant with the Israelites ...

When the LORD made a covenant with the Israelites, he commanded them: "Do not worship
any other gods or bow down to them, serve them or sacrifice to them. ...
//bible.cc/2_kings/17-35.htm - 17k

Leviticus 26:1 "'Do not make idols or set up an image or a sacred ...

"'Do not make idols or set up an image or a sacred stone for yourselves, and do not place a carved stone in your land to bow down before it....
//bible.cc/leviticus/26-1.htm - 17k

235 posted on 11/26/2011 10:57:42 AM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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