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To: Natural Law; D-fendr; CynicalBear; metmom; caww; boatbums; presently no screen name
"Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name HAVE CAST OUT DEVILS?and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then I will profess unto them, I NEVER KNEW YOU; depart from me, ye that work iniquity." Mat.7:22-23.

Well, either YOU are wrong or CHRIST is wrong, NL. Seems there were/are are people who were/are performing exorcisms/casting out devils and they are using God's name to perform these exorcisms. The demons depart and the exorcist believes that it is God's work. SO...the question is, who is causing the exorcised demons to depart? It's not God. He never knew these workers of iniquity. That leaves SATAN. SO...it seems Satan can INDEED cast out demons and command them.

I know you will apologize for this memory lapse of yours, that you did not remember this Scripture, which is hardly hidden or non-specific.

BTW: I included you in this D-fendr because you seem so interested in why Protestants always get things WRONG on purpose to prove that Catholics are incorrect.

601 posted on 11/26/2011 2:57:58 PM PST by smvoice (Better Buck up, Buttercup. The wailing and gnashing is for an eternity..)
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To: smvoice

Who has claimed to cast out devils?


603 posted on 11/26/2011 3:00:28 PM PST by Judith Anne (For rhe sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us, and on the whole world.)
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To: smvoice
"...you seem so interested in why Protestants always get things WRONG on purpose to prove that Catholics are incorrect."

I wonder too, but think I know the answer. Your faith is contingent on your own discernment and that must be defended more vigorously than the truth. The parable you are now citing does not address Satan casting out demons, it deals with being a complete follower of Jesus and living the Beatitudes, not just snippets of them. It is about obeying all of the law, not just the parts you have determined to be rightly divided. It is about the call to good works. It is about what you have done and failed to do for the least among us.

The entire parable follows because it cannot be repeated often enough to those of you who see works as a dishonest attempt to bribe oneself into heaven.

A Tree and Its Fruit
15 “Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves. 16 You will know them by their fruits. Grapes are not gathered from thorn bushes nor figs from thistles, are they? 17 So every good tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot produce bad fruit, nor can a bad tree produce good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 So then, you will know them by their fruits.

21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. 22 Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.’

609 posted on 11/26/2011 4:04:14 PM PST by Natural Law (If you love the Catholic Church raise your hands, if not raise your standards.)
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To: smvoice
you seem so interested in why Protestants always get things WRONG on purpose to prove that Catholics are incorrect.

Not interested, but amazed at some's consistency at it. Yet again.

I'm not convinced it's totally a result of purpose; I think it could also include a lack of capability.

635 posted on 11/26/2011 6:02:49 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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