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To: caww; Jvette; rzman21
Nor do we call her "the Holy Mother Of God'... as if God needed a mother.

Behind every deficient Mariology is a deficient Christology.

3,089 posted on 12/08/2011 2:44:28 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr; boatbums; metmom; CynicalBear
Behind every deficient Mariology is a deficient Christology.

All in the eyes of the beholder I would confidently say.

God sees us thru the life of His son...not Mary...it is His blood shed for us,.. not Mary's.....We do not need to worsip Mary via "Mariology"....when we have "Christ-ianity" as our faith and the centrality of Christ as our foundation. 'He is the Rock' to stand on...all else is sinking sand.

3,092 posted on 12/08/2011 2:54:26 PM PST by caww
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To: D-fendr
Denying that Mary bore God in her womb is shear Nestorianism. The Council of Ephesus infallibly defined in 431 A.D. that: And since the holy Virgin brought forth corporally God made one with flesh according to nature, for this reason we also call her Mother of God, not as if the nature of the Word had the beginning of its existence from the flesh. If anyone will not confess that the Emmanuel is very God, and that therefore the Holy Virgin is the Mother of God (Θεοτόκος), inasmuch as in the flesh she bore the Word of God made flesh [as it is written, The Word was made flesh] let him be anathema. Nestorius: If anyone says that the Emmanuel is true God, and not rather God with us, that is, that he has united himself to a like nature with ours, which he assumed from the Virgin Mary, and dwelt in it; and if anyone calls Mary the mother of God the Word, and not rather mother of him who is Emmanuel; and if he maintains that God the Word has changed himself into the flesh, which he only assumed in order to make his Godhead visible, and to be found in form as a man, let him be anathema.
3,094 posted on 12/08/2011 2:56:10 PM PST by rzman21
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To: D-fendr
Nor do we call her "the Holy Mother Of God'... as if God needed a mother.

Behind every deficient Mariology is a deficient Christology.

Tremendous statement. Standing applause. Every recognition of Mary is a recognition of Christ. Everything that Mary was or did pointed to Christ. Our deficient friends are, well, deficient in recognizing that.

3,252 posted on 12/09/2011 4:44:20 AM PST by MarkBsnr (I would not believe in the Gospel, if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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