[one Lord one faith one baptism]

“what’s the point of this mental excercise”?

great question.

for those who tuned in late, i challenged those that deny the Catholic Faith to name just one Christian from the 3rd century and one from the 6th century.

we know from Scripture, the Church is the Body of Christ, that Jesus said He would be with us always and that the gates of hell would not prevail against the Church.

logically then, you must believe one of two things about the Church:

1. The Church went apostate before the 3rd century and therefore you can’t name one Christian because there weren’t any alive, or
2. There have been Christians alive continuously from 33ad to the present.

The Mormons hold to option one, if the so called Christians who couldn’t name even one Christian from the 3rd and 6th centuries agree with the Mormons, they should just say so.

But, if they agree with option 2, what does it say that they can’t or won’t even name 2 Christians from these 2 centuries?
What it says to me is:
a. if they name someone who was a Catholic, they would need to admit Catholics can be Christian and they risk losing all credibility with all those who have so much time invested in the Catholics as pagan bs, or
b. if they name a non-Catholic, the odds are pretty high the person would be such a heretic ( Arius, Nestorius, etc ), that they can’t bring themself to have to defend the heresy.

so, we get silence.

i think it was Jeff Foxworthy who made a living saying “ you might be a redneck if........”

i would turn that around and say “ you might not be a Christian if you can’t name a Christian from every century from Apostolic times to the present”

if no one believes what you feel makes one a Christian in the 3rd century, you probably aren’t a Christian.

following up on a previous “untruth” that the Council of Ephesus taught the worship of diana ( post #27 ), i am really puzzled how so many “christians” have no trouble delibrately telling “untruths” about 250 Catholic bishops, when the following Scripture came to mind:

2 Thessalonians 2:11-2

“Therefore God sends them a strong delusion , to make them believe what is false, so that all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.”

fits these folks to a ‘T’ , even the part about taking pleasure in unrighteouness.

[metmom]

There have always been Christians.

The gates of hell and all, you know.

And it doesn’t follow that all those Christians could read and write, that they actually DID write if they could, and that if they did write, that what they wrote survived.

Lots of speculation.

BTW, ever figure out how many angels could dance on the head of a pin?

[metmom]

so, we get silence.

You get silence because your whole premise is whacked out and the whole line of questioning is such a stupid waste of time.

Don't quit your night job.

[CynicalBear]

>>The Church went apostate before the 3rd century and therefore you can’t name one Christian because there weren’t any alive<<

Or the true believers were quietly going about there business with no flamboyant rituals or public displays. Some even within the organization simply gave their heart to Jesus trusting in Him only not making waves for fear of being tagged a heretic and being burned at the stake.

[MarkBsnr]

following up on a previous “untruth” that the Council of Ephesus taught the worship of diana ( post #27 ), i am really puzzled how so many “christians” have no trouble delibrately telling “untruths” about 250 Catholic bishops, when the following Scripture came to mind:

2 Thessalonians 2:11-2 “Therefore God sends them a strong delusion , to make them believe what is false, so that all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.”

How many of them believe what they believe simply because they prefer it...