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To: one Lord one faith one baptism; CynicalBear; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; ..

There have always been Christians.

The gates of hell and all, you know.

And it doesn’t follow that all those Christians could read and write, that they actually DID write if they could, and that if they did write, that what they wrote survived.

Lots of speculation.

BTW, ever figure out how many angels could dance on the head of a pin?


227 posted on 11/24/2011 9:24:51 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom; Cronos; Salvation; Natural Law; Judith Anne; rzman21; presently no screen name; smvoice; ...

i don’t know whether to laugh or cry.

this is what a strong delusion looks like.

Christians believe we are filled with the Holy Spirit, that we are the light of the world, a city on a hill that can’t be hidden, that we are to go into all the world plundering the kingdom of satan and bring souls into the kingdom of God, that we are to proclaim the good news of Jesus Christ, teaching and baptizing.
Christians have the promise that Jesus will always be with us and that the gates of hell can’t prevail against the Church, because Jesus is more powerful than Satan and bound him at the cross.

and yet, we have those claiming to be Christian, claiming they are saved by their faith in Jesus Christ who can’t even name one Christian from the 3rd century and one from the 6th century!!

the excuses are laughable, “maybe they couldn’t read or write”, “they were silent”, etc. etc.

the real reason they can’t name a Christian from these centuries, is they believe in another gospel than historical Christianity and another Jesus.

for example, Christians have be believed for 2,000 years that baptism is for the remission of sins and receiving the Holy Spirit ( Acts 2:38 ). those that reject this Catholic, historical, Biblical and orthodox Faith teach another way, a “sinners prayer” followed by a meaningless and useless baptism for obedience.

they realize they have another gospel, another Jesus than the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church. this is the reason so many “untruths” are told and spread on what the Faith teaches. these false teachers say we worship the queen of heaven, or the Council of Ephesus taught to worship diana, or we worship ancestors ( saints ) or we worship statues, etc. etc.
Satan, though bound and unable to stop the Church from taking the Gospel to the world, has thrown everything he can at the Church in 2,000 years. from the Gnostics, to the Arians, Nestorians, Protestantism, Mormonism, SDA, JW, Muslims, Communism, Nazism, etc.
yet, the Church is still here.

unbelieving Jews, who don’t have the Holy Spirit given to them, can name Jews from the 3rd and 6th century.
Muslims, who also don’t have the Holy Spirit can name Muslims in every century from the 7th to the present.
Hindus can do the same.

yet, so called Christians can’t name just ONE fellow Christian from either the 3rd or 6th century.

so they will continue to do the will of their father, who is the father of lies, the persecution of the Church will continue, the “untruths” and smears will continue, the taking pleasure in unrighteouness will continue and the strong delusion will continue.

how should Christians respond to these false teachers?

first, pray for them. pray that the Holy Spirit will give them the gift of faith and they will see the truth.
next, we who are “in Christ”, in His Body, need to love them and proclaim the truth to them. we must proclaim the truth about Jesus Christ and His Church and allow the Holy Spirit to use us for His good purposes.


237 posted on 11/25/2011 7:15:52 AM PST by one Lord one faith one baptism
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