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To: metmom
didn't read that, didn't need to

Luther came up with a new doctrine and then threw out seven books in the Old Testament and wanted to throw out books in the New Testament as well but his drinking buddy Phil didn't think that was a good move politically, so Luther let the books he didn't like in the New Testament stay but called them junk. Calvin added a book to the New Testament he included in his version of the canon saying what he wrote was every bit as inspired as what the Apostles wrote.

Since it's obvious that the originators of the doctrine of each individual having their own personal version of Scripture started with their own doctrine and then manipulated the Bible to suit themselves, why shouldn't everyone who interprets the Bible to suit themselves add and subtract books to suit their own interpretation of Scripture instead of crossing out so many verses and sticking Post-It notes everywhere?

Do all infallible interpreters of Scriptures who started by accepting a Bible with parts of the Old Testament thrown out buy special copies of the New Testament with some of the verses already crossed out or is adding and deleting verses something they all do for themselves because they are each and every one individually infallible and smarter than anyone who has ever lived before in the entire history of the world?

2,246 posted on 12/03/2011 8:58:03 AM PST by Rashputin (Obama stark, raving, mad, and even his security people know it.)
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To: Rashputin
didn't read that, didn't need to

Yes, you do or you're going to continue to make a fool of yourself.

OK. this conversation started in post 2220 here....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2811552/posts?page=2200#2200
with you saying:

"Hey, how about that infallible Episcopalian clergyman, he's just fine and wonderful like the Presbyterian lesbian pastor, and the Baptist queer couple, and on and on. All anyone has to know about who cannot do anything other than whine and repeat total untruths is to look at what this whole series of comments started over. A Catholic priest who may get away with allowing an ordained Episcopalian queer preach in a Catholic Church. Forget that the guy preaches in his own church or if still an Episcopalian Bishop, many churches, forget the fact that Protestant churches by the thousands are ordaining queers, marrying one faggot to another, preaching that abortion is fine, forget all of that and attack the Catholic Church."

To which I responded in post 2210

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2811552/posts?page=2210#2210

You then replied with post 2217 which said, (Rashputin)"didn’t read that, didn’t need to. Why do you like Episcopalian queers but hate Catholics?"

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2811552/posts?page=2217#2217

I replied with 2219 which was mm: "Do you have reading comprehension issues? Reread the first few sentences again. I don’t justify it for ANY clergy or anyone in the ministry of anyone in any position of responsibility within any church."

to which you responded with post 2225 .....

"didn't read that, didn't need to Do you ignore Hebrews, James, Jude, and Revelation like Luther did or do you just redefine parts of those books to suit yourself? When your're ignoring and revising various chapters and verses to suit your own personal interpretation of Scriptures, do you insert whole pages of revised replacements you came up with or do you go verse by verse with Post-it notes layered one over the other?"

Now, God and you alone know where that came from and what it could possibly have to do with gays in the clergy.

It appears that you have lost track of the conversation because I can't for the life of me figure out what you're arguing with me about and how that relates to my statement that there is no excuse for anyone being in leadership position in the church who is living in that kind of blatant immorality.

Tell me, how is one to otherwise interpret verses in Scripture that condemn immorality in the person who calls themselves a believer?

2,251 posted on 12/03/2011 9:24:29 AM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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