Posted on 11/23/2011 11:11:08 AM PST by marshmallow
A notoriously 'gay-friendly' parish in San Francisco has invited an openly homosexual Episcopalian cleric to lead an Advent Vespers service.
Most Holy Redeemer parish asked Bishop Otis Charles, a retired Episcopalian prelate, to lead the November 30 service. After serving as the Bishop of Utah from 1971 to 1993, he publicly announced that he is homosexual. Divorced from the mother of his 5 children, he solemnized a same-sex union in 2004.
Yes I am. I have a bad idea, too
BTW Presbyterians do not have a Roman view of baptism, they do not teach or believe that baptism saves or "washes away" any sin... Baptism is seen as the acceptance of the infant ( or adult) into the New covenant community.. akin to circumcision to the OT ..
You do need to learn to format BTW
Let us know what the pope says when ya find out OK??
The trouble with your proof texts is they are taken out of context with the body of the Church Fathers’ writings and cherry pick from them.
They clearly believed in the primacy of Scripture, as does the Catholic Church today, but they didn’t believe in Sola Scriptura.
The trouble with Protestant apologetics is it shoehorns texts into its preconceived notions rather than looks at them in context.
I can show you countless texts where they point to Holy Tradition against the heretics.
Not a chance.
Those who have been validly baptized belong to the Catholic Church by a sacramental bond even if they are not card-carrying members.
There was no New Testament for 40-60 years. The Church preceded scripture.
So they did not mean it huh? Why dont you look them up and tell us the context ok??
Yep, not a chance that your priest will know the answer either.. One of my most memorable sermons as a RC was the one that made me finally walk.. So the priest tells the people that the meaning of the parable of the sower is that parents think teaching their kids table manners is a waste of time.. but they are planting a good seed that will bear fruit in good manners later..
So no..I do not expect that any Catholic will be able to get the answer tomorrow..BTW You were the one that raised this issue..not me
FOTFLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
From a Catholic, no less.
The masters of cherry picking. They cherry pick Scripture, the church fathers, their own current clergy, whatever......
I know it made me LOL too
I did. It led me to reject Sola Scriptura as a fable.
Give me an example?
Arguing with Protestants is like arguing with brick walls.
No the early church used the OT as it pointed to Christ as the fulfillment of the scriptures.. so there were scriptures and THOSE scriptures were being used daily in the church ... also scripture was being written as the admonitions and encouragements to the new church
2 Peter 3:15-16 - Meanwhile, consider that God's patience is meant to be man's salvation, as our dear brother Paul pointed out in his letter to you, written out of the wisdom God gave him. In that letter, as indeed in all his letters, he referred to these matters. There are, of course, some things in his letters which are difficult to understand (... it may help readers to know that even early Christian leaders had problems following some of Paul's teaching), and which unhappily, ill-informed and unbalanced people distort as they do other scriptures, and bring disaster on their own heads.
So show us the context... or they stand
LOL where to start ???? LOL
Start wth the proof texts for the SEVEN sacraments or an immaculate conception or the priesthood.. come on lets see those texts
The only thing that they discovered was wealth and power.
I don’t need to. Why don’t you do Google the Church fathers on tradition.
I’m not going to do your homework for you. Besides if I did you wouldn’t pay attention.
I have no idea who they think that they are fooling. Certainly not Catholics.
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