Every year since I've been here, and the several years before where I lurked only. Remember that they are on the outside looking in and most of them don't quite understand, but they know that they are missing out.
Posted on 11/23/2011 11:11:08 AM PST by marshmallow
A notoriously 'gay-friendly' parish in San Francisco has invited an openly homosexual Episcopalian cleric to lead an Advent Vespers service.
Most Holy Redeemer parish asked Bishop Otis Charles, a retired Episcopalian prelate, to lead the November 30 service. After serving as the Bishop of Utah from 1971 to 1993, he publicly announced that he is homosexual. Divorced from the mother of his 5 children, he solemnized a same-sex union in 2004.
What a joke!
What if God convinced you through your prayers snd Bible reading that all your prejudice and hate for the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church was wrong?
How would you address the Blessed Virgin Mary?
Ya, that's it...HaHaHaHaHaHa....
Rather, each of us will find at our Judgement just what Christ Judges us to be. I understand that Protestants think that the world begins and ends with them, but that is not the Christian view.
Well, we don’t fear yours.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Every time one of you guys posts a refutation of Gospel passages with a passage of Paul, you guys tell us that you believe that Jesus is a forerunner of Paul. Every time you tell us that Jesus came only for the Jews and that Paul was the only one to the Gentiles, you are telling us that. Every time that we post that the Gospels are the pinnacle of God's revelation to mankind and you guys object to that, you tell us that. I'm not going to ping you because you are surrounded with it.
Are you not as guilty as your compatriots?
Every year since I've been here, and the several years before where I lurked only. Remember that they are on the outside looking in and most of them don't quite understand, but they know that they are missing out.
Why not phrase it a tad differently? Why not phrase it along the lines of: why are Protestants so bitter and jealous of Catholic Christianity? The attacks are a symptom, not an end in themselves. They are missing something; they attempt to create it themselves, but are still missing it. They see us, in a direct line from the Apostles and actively resent us, some knowingly and others unknowingly.
So what? When a little child says something to you that you don't like, do you take it seriously?
Any time of year that we like to honor Mary, they get hysterical. Satan hates The Virgin.
i truly think some of the harpies want to be priests and are bitter that they never can be. The way they preach it around here, sure looks like it.
Amen and Amen!
Luke 8:21 And he answered and said unto them, My mother and my brethren are these which hear the word of God, and do it.
Luke 11:27And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked. 28 But he said, Nay rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it.
Note however that the EOs dissent from claims of papal power and jurisdiction, (http://www.ocf.org/OrthodoxPage/reading/ortho_cath.html) though they do hold Tradition as basically the same as Scripture and their faith as being the one true faith, and disagree with Rome about what Tradition teaches (thus the split on the Filioque, and rejection of Rome's purgatory, etc.) but are less precise in defining doctrine. And which goes back a long way. (http://www.stpaulsirvine.org/html/TheGreatSchism.htm)
Of course, there are commonalities among all religions, but in the "Christian" realm, besides other doctrines, i see the key distinctives as being a supreme (over that of Scripture) assuredly infallible-type authority, and another source of Divine revelation on faith and morals which is made as equal in authority to Scripture, and out of which traditions of men are taught as dogma from God.
These are also marks of groups such as the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society (so-called "Jehovah's Witnesses), but which require lock-step agreement with their leadership and writings beyond even a few core truths but even extending into prophecy. (http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/TheBIBLEandSoCalledJEHOVAHS-WITNESSES.html)
Evangelical-type Protestants are sometimes attacked as if we followed Luther as if he were a pope whose writings were infallible, but which is manifestly not the case (i think Sarah Palin commands more loyalty!) though without one centralized authority (which typically exists on a denominational level) evangelicals do overall hold to certain common core truths as a result of subjecting truth claims to the test of Scripture as supreme, while varying degrees of interpretation exists in issue outside of these. Catholics have their own centralized authority (which effectively is restricted to their church) and are required to give assent of faith to its few infallibly defined teachings, providing they understand which ones are, in which there some interpretation is required as concerning the breadth of them and some of its meaning, while it is understood that some dissent is allowed in the majority of teachings, and great liberty exists in interpreting Scripture to support Rome. But uncritically following men also exists among those who claim to be born again. (http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/Hinn-trueorfalse.html)
As in Scripture, truth is made manifest by its qualities, effects, conflation and supernatural attestation, with the gospel of grace today effecting manifest heart and life-changing regeneration, and not by the formulaic assertions of men.
ROE, you reference one of my favorite stories of the Gospel and the one that “sealed” it for me in my return to Catholicism.
It is a journey, isn’t it?
And I am grateful to have such companions as you and others here.
ROE, you reference one of my favorite stories of the Gospel and the one that “sealed” it for me in my return to Catholicism.
It is a journey, isn’t it?
And I am grateful to have such companions as you and others here.
Well, I couldn’t agree more.
The Church is founded on and by Jesus Christ.
I thank Him for it and for the guidance of the Holy Spirit that keeps His Church as a guardian of His Truth.
Christmas and Easter are particularly trying on our separated friends. Look at the hysterics when the Pope addresses the Faithful at Christmas.
In juxtaposition to that, look at all the Evangelicals who don't bother to even have a Christmas service. Rick Warren's fiefdom, for example this year.
And every church that adopts the role of priestess almost immediately goes into a decline both in terms of adherence to Christianity and in congregational numbers.
I never said I believe I am being persecuted here and that kind of over the top characterization of what I said is part of the problem here.
I said that nothing here is worse than those who died for the faith suffered. That means that I don’t consider this persecution. It does get ugly sometimes but it is nothing when one considers what others have endured for the faith.
The Lord has me to His Church after years of wandering in the desert. I was lost and now am found, home in the the bargue of Peter, where Jesus sat and taught the crowds and calmed the storm.
It is a good place for me.
St. Ignatius wrote of consolation, basically how the Holy Spirit moves you to know if you are doing right. It is a peace that comes from being where God wants you to be.
I have that. It is why I can come here and weather the slings and arrows thrown and actually learn from those who seek to undermine my faith.
Yep, it’s good here for me and when it isn’t, I won’t come.
Jesus rebuked those who would venerate Mary for the wrong reasons.
Mary heard the word of God and obeyed, that is why she is blessed and if we do the same we are blessed also.
It is what Catholics are constantly telling protestants about Mary, but their hearts are hardened, made of stone.
Mary is what she is because Jesus is who He is.
So then you must agree that indeed the CC does concede that there are errors but that they try to minimize them so as to still use the parts that support their dogma which is not contained in the rest of scripture. One example would be praying to the dead. Only in the error riddled books of the apocrypha do you find that.
If we should take the apocrypha as scripture could you please answer the following questions?
According to the two Books of Maccabees, which one of the three places did Antiochus Epiphanes actually die in? Did he actually die three different times in three different places?
Do you believe the following from Ecclesiasticus (Sirach)?
Ecclesiasticus 25:19 Any iniquity is insignificant compared to a wife's iniquity.
Ecclesiasticus 22:3 It is a disgrace to be the father of an undisciplined, and the birth of a daughter is a loss.
Do you believe your birth was a loss to your parents or do you believe what it says in Psalms?
Psalm 127:3 Lo, children are an heritage of the LORD: and the fruit of the womb is his reward. 4As arrows are in the hand of a mighty man; so are children of the youth. 5 Happy is the man that hath his quiver full of them: they shall not be ashamed, but they shall speak with the enemies in the gate.
Do you believe there is no hope for children born out of wedlock?
Wisdom 3:16-19 But children of adulterers will not come to maturity, and the offspring of an unlawful union will perish. Even if they live long they will be held of no account, and finally their old age will be without honor. If they die young, they will have no hope and no consolation on the day of judgment. For the end of an unrighteous generation is grievous.
Or do you believe the following?
Romans 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Wisdom 6:17 says, "The beginning of wisdom is the most sincere desire for instruction." but in Proverbs 9 it says this.
Proverbs 9:10 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.
Which is it?
Wisdom 6:24 says, "The multitude of the wise is the salvation of the world," but in Timothy 4:10 it says “For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.
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