Posted on 11/23/2011 11:11:08 AM PST by marshmallow
A notoriously 'gay-friendly' parish in San Francisco has invited an openly homosexual Episcopalian cleric to lead an Advent Vespers service.
Most Holy Redeemer parish asked Bishop Otis Charles, a retired Episcopalian prelate, to lead the November 30 service. After serving as the Bishop of Utah from 1971 to 1993, he publicly announced that he is homosexual. Divorced from the mother of his 5 children, he solemnized a same-sex union in 2004.
LOL! Said by an ex-Protestant. A FAILED Protestant.
What were His exact words? People who worship the Bible should remember the importance of exact words. The words are recorded. Read them again. And no need to “shout. “ Unless you are thin-skinned.
he help make 5 children and now he has decided he’s gay?.....first he lied to his wife and his children, then he basically is abandoning them.....I thought marriage was a forever thing?......
“Argument from ignorance may be used as a rationalization by a person who realizes that he has no reason for holding the belief that he does.”
LOL
People don’t shout because they’re thin skinned. They shout because the person they’re talking to is deaf (or blind if they’re writing).
The thin skinned go whining to the mods about *hate* and *anti’s*.
RnMom didn’t whine to the mod.
There's five or six of us on this thread that will dispute that.
What risks? I trade all I am for all God is.
I traded death for life, condemnation for forgiveness, bondage for freedom, hell for heaven, darkness for light, fear for peace, insecurity for security, .....
God works in me to will and to do according to HIS good pleasure. In Christ I live and move and have my being.
It's a win/win situation.
I thank God that my future is in HIS hands and not mine, because He will remain faithful when I could be faithless and not let me go. Even when I fail, He knows my frame and remembers that I am dust and has compassion on me.
How does the fallible you know anything?
It's a you/you situation.
All you.
At least. But you can't make someone believe the facts if they're bound and determined to believe a fantasy.
God told us in His word. I happen to believe God when He tells us something.
Like this......
John 3:16-18 16"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. 17For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.
whoever = me
whoever = you
whoever = the guy down the street
whoever = the bum living under a bridge
whoever = whoever
God is no respecter of persons. Whoever believes will be saved. It's all God requires to come to Him; simple faith and that faith is counted as righteousness.
No, it's a God/God situation. Its all God.
He gets credit for any good thing that comes out of me.
All according to you. And according to you:
>>NOBODY, no human being or groups of human beings are infallible.
As I am neither blind nor deaf, nor have I given evidence of same, your argument in favor of shouting is ridiculous. And I wasn’t posting to you, anyway, but to the another harpy.
That's been true for years, here.
Your theology contradicts your beliefs.
Your posts are self-contradictory. Were you advocating polytheistic zeus worship there would be no difference. It’s you saying you are right because you are right when no one can be right.
This is not a competent theology, philosophy or even a consistent argument.
It’s only one person asserting what they assert. As valid, according to your logic, as a dog barking at the moon.
"Of course you don’t pray to Mary do you. Of course not. Never! ’t think of it! That would be idolatry after all.”
Good Grief, do you actually understand any English you didn’t learn from your little Adventist Bible Stories book? That’s even more absurd than the foul refuse about using a definition for “adoration” that wasn’t included in English Language dictionaries until not long before WWI when it was included as the last and least common usage. Forget the use and definition of the word for the thousand or so years prior to that, someone declares themself infallible, settles on an incorrect definition, and in their pride thinks others are so stupid or gulliable that they'll accept the glaring error as fact.
NC laws and laws in many, many, other states use the word “prayer” in a number of ways. The absurd, deliberate, and senseless, limitation on the usage of the word imposed by those who enjoy posting drivel about "praying to the saints is evil" proves that such folks do not and never have interpreted Scriptures properly. "Scripture Alone" is at best a bad joke because in reality it's, "Scripture I haven't yet thrown out yet" alone. After throwing out entire books of the Bible, such infallible interpreters then redefine words as they please to play their own games. They cannot possibly interpret Scripture properly because their worship of their own personal intellect walls out the Holy Spirit who would lead them to the Truth were they not soaking in their own pride and love of self.
The word “prayer” is used every day in State and Federal courts and in legal documents. According to posters who play their personal intellect games, anyone availing themselves of any legal recourse that uses the term is toast and going to hell for praying to someone other than God. Proof positive that such game playing prideful haters of the Truth cannot be properly interpreting Scriptures or in any way concerned with helping others to understand Scripture. They are only interested in playing their little games and thanking themselves that they’re not like “those fallen” humans who do not likewise play little self-worship games.
“North Carolina law permits certain offenses to have “judgment continued” essentially for perpetuity, otherwise known as a “Prayer for Judgment,” “Prayer for Judgment Continued,” “PJC” or even incorrectly a “PFJ.” In other words when a prayer for judgment is granted by a North Carolina Judge, the conviction is not “entered” against the criminal defendant on the underlying charge. So, it is not technically a conviction although in some instances it may be used as an aggravating factor when evaluating future convictions.” There are plenty of other examples, this is just the one I keep on my computer for when I have to send it to teenage dolts who are in trouble and trying to understand their alternatives.
You know, kids who don’t really understand much English because they’ve substituted their own jargon, slang, and redefinitions to try and be hip and kewl in front of their little giggling pals. Usually when dealing with punks like that I have to explain the big words like, “underlying” or “conviction” and how the real meaning of the word differs from their misunderstanding of that same word. Prayer, for some reason, they all understand and never think it is only limited to praying to God or pretend they can’t avail themselves of a particular course of action because in doing so they would be going against the Word of God. They would think about that, too, because a great many of them are very, very, familiar with the Bible because their parents can quote a dozen Bible verses at the drop of a hat.
Scripture isn’t what the anti-Catholic crowd here rely on, it’s their own intellect or they couldn’t keep sticking both their feet in their mouths at the same time over simple English definitions like “prayer” and “adoration”. They pick whichever definition they like and misapply that definition as if it were proof of something other than their own self-centered game playing and their own lack of knowledge or deliberate abuse of simple language.
May God have mercy on those who pretend their own intellect is the Word of God rather than surrendering, taking up their cross, and following Christ.
It’s kind of a corollary of: When you believe in nothing, you’ll believe anything.
Some outside the Church have lost the worship of the Church. The clear distinction that ‘this is our worship of God.” is gone. They have lectures instead of Mass.
So everything tends to become worship. Bowing, intercessory prayer, kneeling.. because they have lost true worship.
It’s not at all duplicitous. If you can proclaim AND defend the Protestant Principle and be consistent in your argument, I’m fine with that debater, I welcome them.
If, however, you wish to infallibly declare the Church is fallible according to your fallible self, then yes, I will call you out on it.
BB, I am fine with simple faith, simply stated, I honor them.
But those who post this type of vile accusation against Christ’s Church can not do so without expecting Her to defend.
If you wish to defend a poor innocent poster, look elsewhere.
That's the bottom line, the whiners show up and attack Catholics on the slenderest of pretexts and pretend that it is the Catholics who are somehow at fault, exactly the same way that the leftists, communists, and fascists, attack everyone who disagrees with them. Whining? Whine about this, no one who consistently and without fail attacks His church is following Christ and Christ Himself made that crystal clear when He asked Paul why Paul was persecuting Him. Not why Paul was persecuting snake handlers, hankie salesmen, or self-proclaimed infallible self-worshipers, why Paul was persecuting Him when Paul persecuted His Church which was and is the only Church founded by Christ and built on Peter and the Apostles.
have a nice day
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