Posted on 11/23/2011 11:11:08 AM PST by marshmallow
A notoriously 'gay-friendly' parish in San Francisco has invited an openly homosexual Episcopalian cleric to lead an Advent Vespers service.
Most Holy Redeemer parish asked Bishop Otis Charles, a retired Episcopalian prelate, to lead the November 30 service. After serving as the Bishop of Utah from 1971 to 1993, he publicly announced that he is homosexual. Divorced from the mother of his 5 children, he solemnized a same-sex union in 2004.
Such silence can allow speculation, but this is not the issue here, but that of teaching as dogma an extra Biblical tradition which developed.
http://www.christiantruth.com/articles/assumption.html
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2006/09/assumption-of-mary-in-earliest-sources.html
How about you learn it for when you're dead. Or do you think that Jesus speaks English and teaches from the KJV1611?
****The terms beloved or brother are the terms used by the apostles for the saved.****
Where does Scripture say that brother and sister are terms for the saved?
****1st the DOES NOT SAY ..”work out TO BE SAVED.. the scripture says they ARE ALREADY SAVED..****
Where does this passage say “already saved”?
***This is about walking the christian walk***
What is the Christian walk? And what happens if one is a Christian but does not walk the walk?
****RZ..when will you know you are good enough and have done enough to be saved??****
It is not a matter of “good enough” as no one is “good enough” or a matter of “having done enough” or not “having done enough” as man can do nothing without God.
It is a matter or remaining in Christ so that He remains in you. That is how one endures to the end. That is the assurance that Jesus gave us so that we will not be afraid but also we will not fall into complacency or the belief that what we do or do not do is of no consequence.
Why do you suppose Jesus warned us to stay awake and not be found sleeping when the master comes.
Or they are more personally aware of the inherent evil in Catholicism.
Naw, those who desert the Faith do so for personal reasons. Those who convert to the Faith do so for theological ones.
***So mary was not doing Gods will right then ??? Not doing Gods will is SIN****
Where does that passage say that Mary was not doing God’s will right then?
Sinless, really, that’s what that passage says?
Well, alrighty then, that explains a lot.
Gee, when I read that passage, I see where God is saying we are free of the debt of sin.
And when the third day was ended, the voices were no longer heard; and from that time forth all knew that her spotless and precious body had been transferred to paradise.
And after it had been transferred, behold, we see Elisabeth the mother of St. John the Baptist, and Anna the mother of the Lady, and Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and David, singing the Alleluiah, and all the choirs of the saints adoring the holy relics of the mother of the Lord, and the place full of light, than which light nothing could be more brilliant, and an abundance of perfume in that place to which her precious and holy body had been transferred in paradise, and the melody of those praising Him who had been born of her-sweet melody, of which there is no satiety, such as is given to virgins, and them only, to hear. We apostles, therefore, having beheld the sudden precious translation of her holy body, glorified God, who had shown us His wonders at the departure of the mother of our Lord Jesus Christ, whose prayers and good offices may we all be deemed worthy to receive. under her shelter, and support, and protection, both in the world that now is and in that which is to come, glorifying in every time and place her only-begotten Son, along with the Father and the Holy Spirit, for ever and ever. Amen.
http://pages.uoregon.edu/sshoemak/texts/dormitionG2/dormitionG2.htm
He never held up any other object and said, “This is My Body” and “This is My Blood.”
Jesus did say He was all those things, and in truth He was.
But, it was only the bread which He said was HIM.
As for the unbloody sacrifice being repeated over and over.
Jesus’ sacrifice is not repeated over and over, it is the same sacrifice once and for all that is made present to us.
It is similar to what we say on Easter, “This is the day the Lord has risen.”
Some people won’t even believe God if he swore on a stack of Bibles. ;o)
John 16:12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
Jesus, to His Apostles.
Now you’re just being mean, lol.
Absolutely no accountability or responsibility. Just not Catholic and that's all that counts.
Honestly, Mark, there are responsible, articulate and knowledgeable Protestants. They are aware of the choice they make and its risks, challenges, responsibilities and implications; they make an informed choice rather that rebel to rebel.
But we do not see that here.
Hebrews 10:12-14 12But when Christ had offered for all time a single sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God, 13waiting from that time until his enemies should be made a footstool for his feet. 14For by a single offering he has perfected for all time those who are being sanctified.
Colossians 3:3 For you have died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God.
MB: Here we have the ultimate buck passing. You are not responsible for your sins - Somebody else is.
Did I say that or are you misrepresenting what I said again?
MB: Therefore you get a free pass no matter what you do.
You mean like the mafia hitman who's a good, practicing Catholic and can just go to confession, which the priest is bound to keep silent about, and confess his sin and pay no legal or civil penalties, but takes a few trips about the rosary and voila' he's all free and clear.
And in case that's not enough, he can stack up some good works feeding the poor and get that get out of purgatory free cards.
Or maybe he can just buy some indulgences......Kind of pre-pay.
jvette:John 16:12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Jesus, to His Apostles.
That isn't John saying that he didn't write down everything of importance that Jesus did as was claimed in post 2113.
Try again.
Where did John say in his writings that he did not write down everything of importance? That's what was claimed.
You've been told otherwise numerous times by numerous posters but go ahead, delude yourself.
I have no doubt it feeds so much insecurity and spiritual pride.
Well, thanks, you have made it clear that in all your requests to try to get someone to declare they ARE infallible - just so you can then mock them and deride their foolish pride - anyone who honestly admits in the human sense their fallible, mortal selves you proceed to conclude you have permission to declare anything they may say from then on is not worth reading. I believe your scheme has been exposed as duplicitous. In reality, even your highly esteemed "Church" has no assurance of infallibility other than what they declare for themselves and their minions happily bow to whatever myths, legends and alcohol-induced nightmares that get written down and stamped with an "Imprimatur". Jesus certainly never gave them such at least not more than any other Christian sensitive and open to the leading of the indwelling Holy Spirit of God who Jesus DID promise would lead us into ALL truth.
But thanks for showing your motives, I remain unconvinced of what you were probably aiming to prove. Perhaps one day your comments may prove trustworthy again.
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