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Gay Episcopal Bishop to Preach at San Francisco Catholic Parish
Catholic Culture ^ | 11/22/11

Posted on 11/23/2011 11:11:08 AM PST by marshmallow

A notoriously 'gay-friendly' parish in San Francisco has invited an openly homosexual Episcopalian cleric to lead an Advent Vespers service.

Most Holy Redeemer parish asked Bishop Otis Charles, a retired Episcopalian prelate, to lead the November 30 service. After serving as the Bishop of Utah from 1971 to 1993, he publicly announced that he is homosexual. Divorced from the mother of his 5 children, he solemnized a same-sex union in 2004.


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To: mas cerveza por favor
, and the constant belief of 2000-year, Paraclete-informed Christian Church

So would you say that the Catholic Encyclopedia is not a part of the "paraclete informed christian church??"

2,121 posted on 12/02/2011 7:24:10 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: narses

Mary is not our savior.

Jesus is.

I hope you realize that before it’s too late.


2,122 posted on 12/02/2011 7:25:20 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom

No kidding? Really? What odd cult teaches that stuff?


2,123 posted on 12/02/2011 7:28:10 PM PST by narses (what you bind upon earth, shall be bound also in heaven; and what you loose upon earth, shall be ..)
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To: blue-duncan

You are arguing from ignorance, a big logical fallacy.


2,124 posted on 12/02/2011 7:28:17 PM PST by rzman21
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To: RnMomof7

What is your point?


2,125 posted on 12/02/2011 7:29:00 PM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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To: metmom

Lord, forgive all reviling of Mary’s name!
We beseech Thee, hear us!

Lord, forgive all contempt of her Immaculate Conception!
We beseech Thee, hear us!

Lord, forgive all coldness in the honoring of Mary!
We beseech Thee, hear us!

Lord, forgive all contempt of Mary’s pictures!
We beseech Thee, hear us!

Lord, forgive all neglect of the Holy Rosary!
We beseech Thee, hear us!

Lord, forgive all indifference to Mary’s Motherly love!

(From the Pilgrimage of the Two Hearts Booklet, published in Australia.)


2,126 posted on 12/02/2011 7:29:13 PM PST by narses (what you bind upon earth, shall be bound also in heaven; and what you loose upon earth, shall be ..)
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To: rzman21

Nope.. but then I do not add to infallible scripture as if i think I am..


2,127 posted on 12/02/2011 7:32:08 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: mas cerveza por favor; blue-duncan; 1000 silverlings; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; boatbums; caww; ...
John said quite plainly in his Gospel that he did not include everything of importance. There is no basis for claiming that the Assumption of Mary did not happen because it was not reported in the Gospels.

Oh really? And the chapter and verse for that is???????

2,128 posted on 12/02/2011 7:34:19 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: RnMomof7; mas cerveza por favor
So would you say that the Catholic Encyclopedia is not a part of the "paraclete informed christian church??"

It is what it is: an effort by a group of editors to put together all things Catholic into one encyclopedia. They ran it by a lot of folks, went through a lot of revisions. It's a valuable compilation. I don't believe one would find anything in it that was contrary to Catholic doctrine; but, to say it is a work of the Church and everything in it is the official view of the Church would be wrong.

2,129 posted on 12/02/2011 7:34:53 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: mas cerveza por favor

Well you are citing St John of Damascus as if he is ...he did not agree on the deuterocanonical books ..so was he right on this and wrong on that??


2,130 posted on 12/02/2011 7:35:28 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: metmom

Credo in Deum Patrem omnipotentem;
Creatorem caeli et terrae.

Et in Jesum Christum,
Filium eius unicum, Dominum nostrum;
qui conceptus est
de Spiritu Sancto,
natus ex Maria virgine;
passus sub Pontio Pilato,
crucifixus, mortuus, et sepultus;
descendit ad inferos;
tertia die resurrexit a mortuis;
ascendit ad caelos;
sedet ad dexteram Dei Patris omnipotentis;
inde venturus est
iudicare vivos et mortuos.

Credo in Spiritum Sanctum;
sanctam ecclesiam catholicam;
sanctorum communionem;
remissionem peccatorum;
carnis resurrectionem;
vitam aeternam. Amen.

In English:

I believe in God, the Father almighty,
creator of heaven and earth.

I believe in Jesus Christ,
his only Son, our Lord.
He was conceived
by the power of the Holy Spirit,
and born of the Virgin Mary,
He suffered under Pontius Pilate,
was crucified, died, and was buried;
He descended into hell.
On the third day he rose again;
he ascended into heaven,
he is seated at the right hand of the Father,
he will come again
to judge the living and the dead.

I believe in the Holy Spirit,
the holy Catholic church,
the communion of saints,
the forgiveness of sins,
the resurrection of the body,
and the life everlasting. Amen


2,131 posted on 12/02/2011 7:37:09 PM PST by narses (what you bind upon earth, shall be bound also in heaven; and what you loose upon earth, shall be ..)
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To: D-fendr

Ohh so they are not part of the church..or maybe because they wish to have some credibility they left out tradition that the magisterium has never “infallibly “ proclaimed and just stick to the REAL KNOWN FACTS.. Shocking i know


2,132 posted on 12/02/2011 7:38:11 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: narses
John 14:6 Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

1 Timothy 2:5-6 5For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all, which is the testimony given at the proper time.

2,133 posted on 12/02/2011 7:40:16 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom

No one is listening anyway.. they can “pray away’


2,134 posted on 12/02/2011 7:41:34 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7

What the heck are you trying to say?

Your posts indicate you have no idea of the Church. Yet they seem to be reaching for some way, any way to criticise.

It’s an encyclopedia. Try comprehending that.


2,135 posted on 12/02/2011 7:41:44 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: metmom
>> Oh really? And the chapter and verse for that is???????<<

How dare you restrict the Catholics to scripture? The Mariology loss would devastate the entire base for much of what they believe.

2,136 posted on 12/02/2011 7:45:01 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: blue-duncan; metmom; RnMomof7
No, what John said was that there were “many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book”, not that “he did not include everything of importance.” There is a difference.

LOL. So everything else that was not a sign done by Jesus in the presence of his disciples had to be included?

2,137 posted on 12/02/2011 7:45:12 PM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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To: RnMomof7

Catholics say: “the sky is blue.”

Have at it.


2,138 posted on 12/02/2011 7:45:35 PM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: RnMomof7
Well you are citing St John of Damascus as if he is ...he did not agree on the deuterocanonical books

Are you referencing the encyclopedia article? I do not see what you are talking about.

2,139 posted on 12/02/2011 7:46:03 PM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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To: narses

I’m so glad you always include the Latin because everyone understands it and of course it is much more holy after all. LOL


2,140 posted on 12/02/2011 7:48:23 PM PST by CynicalBear
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