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John said quite plainly in his Gospel that he did not include everything of importance. There is no basis for claiming that the Assumption of Mary did not happen because it was not reported in the Gospels.

Oh really? And the chapter and verse for that is???????

2,128 posted on 12/02/2011 7:34:19 PM PST by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom

Credo in Deum Patrem omnipotentem;
Creatorem caeli et terrae.

Et in Jesum Christum,
Filium eius unicum, Dominum nostrum;
qui conceptus est
de Spiritu Sancto,
natus ex Maria virgine;
passus sub Pontio Pilato,
crucifixus, mortuus, et sepultus;
descendit ad inferos;
tertia die resurrexit a mortuis;
ascendit ad caelos;
sedet ad dexteram Dei Patris omnipotentis;
inde venturus est
iudicare vivos et mortuos.

Credo in Spiritum Sanctum;
sanctam ecclesiam catholicam;
sanctorum communionem;
remissionem peccatorum;
carnis resurrectionem;
vitam aeternam. Amen.

In English:

I believe in God, the Father almighty,
creator of heaven and earth.

I believe in Jesus Christ,
his only Son, our Lord.
He was conceived
by the power of the Holy Spirit,
and born of the Virgin Mary,
He suffered under Pontius Pilate,
was crucified, died, and was buried;
He descended into hell.
On the third day he rose again;
he ascended into heaven,
he is seated at the right hand of the Father,
he will come again
to judge the living and the dead.

I believe in the Holy Spirit,
the holy Catholic church,
the communion of saints,
the forgiveness of sins,
the resurrection of the body,
and the life everlasting. Amen


2,131 posted on 12/02/2011 7:37:09 PM PST by narses (what you bind upon earth, shall be bound also in heaven; and what you loose upon earth, shall be ..)
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To: metmom
>> Oh really? And the chapter and verse for that is???????<<

How dare you restrict the Catholics to scripture? The Mariology loss would devastate the entire base for much of what they believe.

2,136 posted on 12/02/2011 7:45:01 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: metmom

Such silence can allow speculation, but this is not the issue here, but that of teaching as dogma an extra Biblical tradition which developed.
http://www.christiantruth.com/articles/assumption.html
http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2006/09/assumption-of-mary-in-earliest-sources.html


2,163 posted on 12/02/2011 8:54:41 PM PST by daniel1212 (Our sinful deeds condemn us, but Christ's death and resurrection gains salvation. Repent +Believe)
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To: metmom; mas cerveza por favor

John 16:12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.

Jesus, to His Apostles.


2,173 posted on 12/02/2011 9:21:58 PM PST by Jvette
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