Posted on 11/23/2011 11:11:08 AM PST by marshmallow
A notoriously 'gay-friendly' parish in San Francisco has invited an openly homosexual Episcopalian cleric to lead an Advent Vespers service.
Most Holy Redeemer parish asked Bishop Otis Charles, a retired Episcopalian prelate, to lead the November 30 service. After serving as the Bishop of Utah from 1971 to 1993, he publicly announced that he is homosexual. Divorced from the mother of his 5 children, he solemnized a same-sex union in 2004.
The Catholic Church doesn’t have a commentary on scripture because by doing so they would be forced to show that their version of some passages and verses don’t fit with the rest of scripture. By attempting to produce one they would get so tangled up in disinformation that it would expose them as frauds. I don’t believe for a second that they haven’t attempted to produce one but realized it would destroy the foundation of that cult.
Thanks for the ping. These should be pertinent to your issue:
http://beggarsallreformation.blogspot.com/2006/08/imprimatur-watch-what-youre-reading-my.html
A potential problem even for RCs is seen here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2238395/posts
Relevant to that is this controversial and interesting attempt: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vulgata_Sixtina
It is bizarre to juxtapose the Resurrection with the Crucifixion as if these events represent a contradiction that one has to choose between. Honoring Christ's Resurrection honors His Crucifixion and vice versa. What ever led you to think otherwise?
In fact liberal, modernist Catholic churches have replaced the Crucifix with statues of the Resurrection. Perhaps they are uncomfortable about the hard saying that “you must eat my body and drink my blood.”
Better a Catholic cultist than a self-righteous fundamentalist zealot.
Exactly...”I know you are wrong, but I don’t what right is”...
The bible teaches Christ crucified ONCE for all and Risen...Where is the evidence of Risen in your Church???
I understand you disagree with traditional interpretations of James 2:14 (faith-works) and 1 Corinthians 3:15 (purgatory). However, I want understand your hang-up with just the crucifix before moving on to these related issues.
Why does the universal 2000-year custom of depicting Jesus on the cross lead you to believe that historical Christians reject the Resurrection and the full, completed Redemption? Do you think the crucifix is an attempt to freeze Jesus at that moment in time--to blot out what happen afterward?
LOL. There are books and books and books of Catholic commentary on scripture spanning 2000 years. Scripture passages are rich with meaning and can have multiple layers of interpretation. Catholics are encouraged to study commentaries are free to interpret with informed consciences, but may not adhere to interpretations condemned as false.
What do you think??? What does the physical evidence point to???
Many non Catholic churches sport a Cross...An empty Cross...
We know where Jesus is...And he is not continually being crucified...
He is not here...He is risen...
http://www.biblegateway.com/keyword/?search=raised&version1=47&searchtype=all&bookset=2
2 Timothy 2:8-9 Remember Jesus Christ, risen from the dead, the offspring of David, as preached in my gospel, for which I am suffering, bound with chains as a criminal. But the word of God is not bound!
Acts 2:24 God raised him up, loosing the pangs of death, because it was not possible for him to be held by it.
Romans 4:22-25 22That is why his faith was "counted to him as righteousness." 23But the words "it was counted to him" were not written for his sake alone, 24but for ours also. It will be counted to us who believe in him who raised from the dead Jesus our Lord, 25 who was delivered up for our trespasses and raised for our justification.
Romans 8:11 If the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, he who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through his Spirit who dwells in you.
Romans 10:8-10 8But what does it say? "The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart" (that is, the word of faith that we proclaim); 9because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved.
1 Corinthians 15:12-19 12Now if Christ is proclaimed as raised from the dead, how can some of you say that there is no resurrection of the dead? 13But if there is no resurrection of the dead, then not even Christ has been raised. 14And if Christ has not been raised, then our preaching is in vain and your faith is in vain. 15We are even found to be misrepresenting God, because we testified about God that he raised Christ, whom he did not raise if it is true that the dead are not raised.
16For if the dead are not raised, not even Christ has been raised. 17And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile and you are still in your sins. 18Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ have perished. 19If in Christ we have hope in this life only, we are of all people most to be pitied.
And there we have it. YOPCIOS = Your own personal Catholic Interpretation of Scripture.
1,999,999,999 to go.
Jesus is RISEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Not if you want eternal security and eternity spent with the one true God of all who inspired the scripture we use.
Huh..I gave my source ....Greg Dues has written Catholic Customs & Traditions, a popular guide (New London: Twenty Third Publications, 2007). On page 166
Actually no there aren’t. There are books and books of Catholic doctrine with some verses interpreted in error to support those doctrines.
What do you think??? What does the physical evidence point to???
For the sake of argument, I will continue with the working assumption that really meant what you said and are not pulling my leg.
Do you, then, think that paintings and statues of other people signify an attempt to arrest those persons in their respective poses? Does a picture of George Washington as a boy chopping a cherry tree mean he never grew up to be a soldier? Does a picture of GW as a general crossing the Delaware mean he never became president?
If not, why would you presume that a statue of Jesus on the cross means he never rose from the dead and ascended to heaven?
Frankly, I don’t care.
How can biblical commentary be separated from doctrine?
Truth is relative, so why should anyone care about the way you interpret the scriptures.
You have your interpretation, Luther had his, etc.
The Bible says whatever you want it to. Don’t you know that?
Consequently, you lack any objective criteria to judge what the Catholic Church of the Church Fathers taught.
Do you not understand the difference??
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