[Siena Dreaming]

calvinism is a perfect theology for lazy preachers, no need to visit, no need to evangelize, no need for missions...God will take care of them...or not.

Not really. True calvinism would say obey God in all things, but it can certainly be twisted to other ends as is any theology.

God commands believers to reach out because God works through the believer to reach the unbeliever.

This story is a case in point...Calvinists who are reaching out to the needy, many of whom presumably are unbelievers.

[Alex Murphy]

True calvinism would say obey God in all things, but it can certainly be twisted to other ends as is any theology. God commands believers to reach out because God works through the believer to reach the unbeliever.

This story is a case in point...Calvinists who are reaching out to the needy, many of whom presumably are unbelievers.

Funny how everyone misses that point....

[fungoking]

This story is a case in point...Calvinists who are reaching out to the needy, many of whom presumably are unbelievers.

But according to point 4, Irresistible Grace, why bother? It has been predetermined that they will be saved or not, no action or inaction by man can change that, right? If this Church wasn't handing out Thanksgiving baskets (and slapping themselves on the back for doing so), the lost that will be saved are still going to be saved...at least according to Calvin.