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from the article: The Bible promotes slavery. Paul said “slave.” He didn’t say “servant,” he said, “Slaves, obey your master. Even if they’re mistreating you. Even if they’re not a believer.” Well, nobody would call me and ask me about the pros and cons of slavery. The Bible says that you can sell women as property. It says if your daughter is raped, you can sell her to the rapist. Nobody would call me now and say, “Hey, we’re having a debate. Are women property or human beings?” No. We know what the Bible says but our culture has moved beyond that

Morally flip-flopping

1 posted on 11/15/2011 7:01:09 AM PST by Cronos
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There’s an easy way to put this in context:

What if a single pastor “came out” and said he was living with a woman, having sex with her on a regular basis, and had no intention of stopping or of getting married?

Odds are his chruch attendance would drop form 2,500 to 500 also.


2 posted on 11/15/2011 7:13:40 AM PST by Brookhaven (The media is throwing smoke bombs at Cain and claiming the smoke is proof of fire)
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Maybe he can get a guest host gig with Osteen.


3 posted on 11/15/2011 7:16:21 AM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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500 people stayed!?!


4 posted on 11/15/2011 7:20:46 AM PST by sigzero
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Got a be carefule about Slavery context.. I know in some situations, when the bible refers to slave,it was actual more of a employer/employee type of relationship..


5 posted on 11/15/2011 7:22:24 AM PST by scbison
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2500 Left?!?

Why! I'm sure their was some provision in the church bylaws for getting rid of a pastor. Why didn't they ride him out of town on a rail and get a pastor that wasn't living in sin?

You can darn well bet if this happened in MY church it wouldn't be the congregation that left...

6 posted on 11/15/2011 7:25:58 AM PST by apillar
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as it is written Except the Lord of Hosts had provided a very small minority we would have been made to be as Sodom and like unto Gomorrah.” My apologies to the Jewish author of the
Book of Isaiah Chapter 1 verse 9 and to the author of Paul’s
epistle to the Believers at Rome (Romans chapter 9 verse 29)
if this country has moved beyond that — I suggest the writer of this article probably misunderstands or is trying to Beguile us by perhaps misrepresenting what the Bible says.IMO slavery was not as it was understood in the American Republic -a lifetime thing but the Year of Jubilee must be figured in. As must all other relevant cultural and time related factors. This seems not done by the queer/ie strange article.


8 posted on 11/15/2011 7:44:18 AM PST by StonyBurk (ring)
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#1, this pastor must have slept through the seminary class about OT law and history vs NT law.

#2, He must have also missed the class on Philemon, where the "context" is that St. Paul says the runaway slave Onesimus is to be accepted back, not as a slave but as a brother.

#3, he must have snoozed past the discussion about how St. Paul, in the light of Christ, revolutionaized the categories by saying those who are one in Christ are His eyes "Neither slave not freeman, neither Jew nor Gentile, neither man nor woman"

#4, maybe his church, whatever it is, doesn't know a dadblamed thing about Natural Law or Development of Doctrine?

(Sigh.) No, probably not.

So expect more of this from the YOPIOS crowd, yes, in every denomination.

9 posted on 11/15/2011 7:52:39 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Jesus, my Lord, my God, my All.)
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All that really matters; the highest aspiration we can all have in life, is to be able to wag our sex in front of the congregation and have them all clap and celebrate! /s/

This pervert wrecked a congregation and he’s so happy that HE feels good about himself. He is all that matters to him. And to him, he is sodomy.


10 posted on 11/15/2011 8:01:52 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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Morally flip-flopping

And completely misinterpreting scripture. But of course, homosexuals have to do that to justify their sin.

And isn't it interesting that he says people sit in the pews with their bibles in their laps, worshipping, etc, then goes on to say, in essence, the bible is irrelevant to our culture.

14 posted on 11/15/2011 1:59:54 PM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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Swilley remains confident in his journey as a gay Christian and hopeful for his new project, Church in the Now Midtown.

Midtown? Gee, who saw that coming?

15 posted on 11/15/2011 2:05:23 PM PST by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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Gaydar. Who haz it?

20 posted on 11/15/2011 3:36:59 PM PST by Lee N. Field ("You fool! Don't you know every Taurus purchased brings us closer to TEOTWAWKI?")
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placemark


21 posted on 11/15/2011 4:09:11 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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