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There is no religion more consistant than Mormonism. The doctrine comes from the Bible and other standard works and from prophets when they are speaking propheticly. However, some of what some Mormons believe comes from intepretations of the standard works, and we try to differentiate between doctrine and interpretation. That man may become like God is doctrine, well established by the Bible and the Doctrine and Covenents. The questions of planets and who rules over what are interpretations, not doctrine.


15 posted on 11/15/2011 9:23:34 AM PST by webboy45
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To: webboy45

holy moley, not sure even where to begin on that statement....


16 posted on 11/15/2011 9:54:29 AM PST by raygunfan
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To: webboy45; Colofornian; ejonesie22; Elsie; greyfoxx39; SZonian
There is no religion more consistant than Mormonism.

Right - 3000+ changes to the bom all WITHOUT the benefit of either the peep stone or the gold tablets

Smith and church doctrine at the time - forbade plural marriages, all the while smith and his inner circle were marrying all sorts of women, some in their early teens and others who were still married to another man.

Consistent in that the prophet proclaimed that it was the pure word from God that polygamy would never cease - suddenly got a 'revelation' that polygamy was finished as government troops were en route to arrest him and disenfranchise the mormon church.

Same consistency that had polygamy practiced in secret by prophets and apostles - even though the 'revelation' of 'god' was to stop the practice.

The same consistency that had smith speaking for and against slavery, and the mormon church forbidding blacks from holding the priesthood until lawsuits by the dozen were crashing through the office doors of SLC. Then another 'revelation'.

That man may become like God is doctrine, well established by the Bible and the Doctrine and Covenents.

Sorry webbie, the Bible repudiates the concept and D&C is a fallible document written by the hand of man that is unreliable - after all, IF polygamy is no longer necessary to attain godhood, why is Sect 132 still present.

But then such statements directed in the "TO:" box to no one show such a bold witness.

17 posted on 11/15/2011 9:54:32 AM PST by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: webboy45
BoM - Polygamy is forbidden.

Jacob 2:27 (from the BOM) reads, "Wherefore, my brethren, hear me, and hearken to the word of the Lord: For there shall not any man among you have save it be one wife; and concubines he shall have none." And Jacob 2:24 says, “Behold, David and Solomon truly had many wives and concubines, which thing was abominable before me, saith the Lord.”

Yet, we have the D&C Sect. 132 stating that opposite. How is that consistent?

Let me guess, JS was "speaking propheticly [sic]" when he "revealed" this?

Or what about this; Why were the words "white and delightsome" in 2 Nephi 30:6 changed to "pure and delightsome" right around the same time as the Civil rights for blacks campaign was ramping up?

Or; Why does the Book of Mormon state that Jesus was born in Jerusalem (Alma 7:10) when history and the Bible state that he was born outside of Jerusalem, in Bethlehem?

If, as claimed by mormons, the BoM "contains the fullness of the everlasting gospel®", why are additional works [read temple stuff] required?

Why do you baptize for the dead when both Mosiah 3:25 and the Bible state that there is no chance of salvation after death?

If having a physical body is necessary to become a god, how did Jesus become a god before he had a body?

Why are Mormon Temple ceremonies secret [argued by mormons to be "sacred" not "secret"] to the public when the Old Testament temple ceremonies were open to public knowledge?

Many more questions here...http://www.contenderministries.org/mormonism/fairlds50questions.php

18 posted on 11/15/2011 10:19:29 AM PST by SZonian (Throwing our allegiances to political party's in the long run gave away our liberty.)
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To: webboy45
Oh Webby my boy, there is no “like god” LDS become gods in their little story line.

As far as consistency, really. come one my Boy, how much scripture form the very prophets themselves has been tossed under the bus...

27 posted on 11/15/2011 12:16:38 PM PST by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: webboy45
That man may become like God is doctrine, well established by the Bible

Show me.

Besides mormonISM does not teach LIKE God but will BE god.

28 posted on 11/15/2011 12:17:00 PM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you!)
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To: webboy45

Consistent - blacks barely human, now nearly human
Consistent - polygamy ok, now not ok
Consistent - coffee ok, now not ok
Consistent - alcohol ok, now not ok
Just to name a few


29 posted on 11/15/2011 12:19:46 PM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you!)
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To: webboy45
There is no religion more consistant than Mormonism.

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Doctrine and Covenants

Section 124:144

http://lds.org/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/124?lang=eng

And a commandment I give unto you, that you should fill all these offices and aapprove of those names which I have mentioned, or else disapprove of them at my general conference;

35 posted on 11/15/2011 12:42:39 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: webboy45
There is no religion more consistant than Mormonism.

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Inasmuch as laws have been enacted by Congress forbidding plural marriage...
I hereby declare my intention to submit to those laws..."

~ Wilford Woodruff, 4th LDS President


36 posted on 11/15/2011 12:43:06 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: webboy45
There is no religion more consistant than Mormonism.

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The Articles of Faith
of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints


  1. We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.
  2. We believe that men will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam's transgression.
  3. We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel.
  4. We believe that the first principles and ordinances of the Gospel are: first, Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; second, Repentance; third, Baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; fourth, Laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost.
  5. We believe that a man must be called of God, by prophecy, and by the laying on of hands by those who are in authority, to preach the Gospel and administer in the ordinances thereof.
  6. We believe in the same organization that existed in the Primitive Church, namely, apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, evangelists, and so forth.
  7. We believe in the gift of tongues, prophecy, revelation, visions, healing, interpretation of tongues, and so forth.
  8. We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God.
  9. We believe all that God has revealed, all that He does now reveal, and we believe that He will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God.
    We believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the restoration of the Ten Tribes; that Zion (the New Jerusalem) will be built upon the American continent; that Christ will reign personally upon the earth; and, that the earth will be renewed and receive its paradisiacal glory.
  10. We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may
  11. We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.
  12. We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men; indeed, we may say that we follow the admonition of Paul—We believe all things, we hope all things, we have endured many things, and hope to be able to endure all things. If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things.

Joseph Smith

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48 posted on 11/15/2011 1:06:34 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: webboy45
"There is no religion more consistant than Mormonism. The doctrine comes from the Bible..."

God(s) appeared to FLDS/LDS "Prophet" Joseph Smith and told him not to be a Christian because the bible was mistranslated. He wrote the Book of Mormon, which the LDS sect claim to be "the most correct of any book on earth", AND HE RETRANSLATED THE ENTIRE BIBLE.

Brigham Young declared the Joseph Smith Translation to be a fraud and the LDS offshoot sect of mormonism does not use it to this day.

Now I say to you sir, which bible does LDS Doctrine come from ?

70 posted on 11/16/2011 12:15:13 PM PST by SENTINEL (Romney is to Conservatism what Mormonism is to Christianity.)
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To: webboy45
Standard works. Standard works. standard works. STANDARDWORKS.
standard works

STANDARD WORKS

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Sorry, I have been offline for a while and needed to practice my HTML a little bit.

standard works

Drat, I can't remember how to make it flash or do rainbows.

71 posted on 11/17/2011 9:51:14 PM PST by T Minus Four
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To: webboy45; Colofornian; Elsie; greyfoxx39; SZonian; Saundra Duffy
The questions of planets and who rules over what are interpretations, not doctrine.

Not doctrine? What about "A Doctrinal Exposition by the First Presidency [Joseph F. Smith, Anthon H. Lund, Charles W. Penrose] and the Twelve." The Father and the Son, reprinted in Ensign 2002. Not only was that reprinted for the LDS Church nine years ago, it's still part of the LDS Achieving a Celestial Marriage Student Manual.

And I'd ask you and Saundra Duffy a question (without citing all of the other times this issue of gods and planets is raised, or the fact that it is currently taught in CES materials for ages 4-11, seminary, and college students, as well as in Gospel Principles) - how can it be that these learned LDS professors (one the Assistant Dean of Religion at BYU) would publicly state that this teaching is simply (a) lore (i.e., word of mouth, not written down), and a canard?

Is this a sign of their ignorance or are they intentionally deceiving the public?

72 posted on 12/28/2011 11:48:58 AM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it)
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To: webboy45
There is no religion more consistant than Mormonism.

You are either TOTALLY ignorant of the flip-floping that is MORMONism, or you are intentionally lying.

Pick one that is closest to the truth.

75 posted on 12/28/2011 2:47:41 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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