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To: dartuser

all have sinned, including infants.

we have received the practice of baptizing infants from the Apostles, so of course i “support” it.

all Christians should “support” infant baptism.


61 posted on 11/04/2011 8:17:31 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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Well, then....

I was water baptized as an infant in the Catholic church, so by your reasoning I AM SAVED.

Period. End of story.

So, why am I, and other former Catholics, being so criticized for having confidence that we are going to heaven when we die?


63 posted on 11/04/2011 8:33:24 PM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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>> we have received the practice of baptizing infants from the Apostles<<

Can you give scripture for that?

64 posted on 11/04/2011 8:34:33 PM PDT by CynicalBear
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Acts 8 clearly shows that the eunich was required to believe before he was baptized.

"If you believe ... you may ... "

That alone negates infant baptism.

81 posted on 11/04/2011 8:58:46 PM PDT by dartuser ("If you are ... what you were ... then you're not.")
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism; dartuser; metmom
all have sinned, including infants. we have received the practice of baptizing infants from the Apostles, so of course i “support” it. all Christians should “support” infant baptism.

Infants have not sinned, but they have a sin nature and are under the curse of all humanity. The grace of God through the blood of Christ is sufficient to cover infants or anyone for that matter who is unable to "come to the knowledge of the truth" and receive Jesus as Savior. Some of the "Early Church Fathers" believed unbaptized infants went to Hell. Then some came along, thinking that was too harsh of a merciful God, and invented "limbo" as the place these infants spent eternity. Though apart from the presence of God, they were thought to enjoy "some" semblance of joy. Now, the CCC has dropped the word Limbo from the vernacular and confesses they really don't have any idea where unbaptized "innocents" spend eternity.

I agree with Dartuser, Scripture is extremely clear that we are baptized in the Holy Spirit when we by faith trust and receive Jesus Christ as our Savior and Redeemer. The water ritual comes after such a faith commitment is made but is not what saves in the first place.

So no, all Christians shouldn't support baptism for infants. As signs of the parents or guardians making a commitment to raise the child in the "nurture and admonition of the Lord" and to "dedicate" the child to God is one thing. But to insist that babies MUST be baptized to be saved is NOT Scriptural NOR is it something the Apostles taught.

86 posted on 11/04/2011 9:04:23 PM PDT by boatbums ( Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us. Titus 3:5)
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