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However, since a new Baptist church could technically deny this, I cannot say all Baptist churches hold to the Nicene Creed (Mr. R -- am I correct on this?) with the same surety I can say that, say, Presbyterians hold to the Nicene Creed (if a Presbyterian group denies the Nicene Creed then by very definition it ceases to be Presbyterian, and, arguably, Christian as we know it).

Which Nicene Creed? The Orthodox don't buy into the filique on the Nicene Creed believing this was changed by the Latin Church. Would you say this stops the Orthodox from being Christian because they disagree that the Holy Spirit "proceeds from the Father and the Son"?

I find it a very dangerous game to try to determine who's a Christian and who's not based upon their theology. Each of us will have to give an accounting of our own lives and actions. Unless we rely upon Christ's righteousness for our salvation, then we will be found wanting, regardless of whether we believe in the Nicene Creed, unicorns failed to make it on the ark, or anything else for that matter.

Which Nicene Creed? The Orthodox don't buy into the filique on the Nicene Creed believing this was changed by the Latin Church. Would you say this stops the Orthodox from being Christian because they disagree that the Holy Spirit "proceeds from the Father and the Son"?

False analogy -- firstly, the Orthodox object to the filioque as not in council and secondly both sides have acknowledged that they have the same meaning yet do not agree on the wording

Thirdly, whichever Nicene Creed -- Baptists do not "accept" Creeds.

I find it a very dangerous game to try to determine who's a Christian and who's not based upon their theology. -- so then on what basis do you reject Oneness Pentecostals, Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons?

HD: I find it a very dangerous game to try to determine who's a Christian and who's not based upon their theology. -- so then on what basis do you reject Oneness Pentecostals, Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons?

If you think that it's ok to just rely upon Christ's righteousness for our salvation then why do you argue with people over other theological matters?

Why the arguments over double-predestination?

If everyone relies upon Christ's righteousness for their salvation, then you should have no argument with Jehovah's Witnesses as they say they do that -- ditto for Mormons.

HarleyD "I find it a very dangerous game to try to determine who's a Christian and who's not based upon their theology. Each of us will have to give an accounting of our own lives and actions"

So, does that mean that you would consider Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses as Christians?