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To: TheZMan
but it seems after doing some reading that Calvinism is the height of arrogance

True Calvinism doesn't have anything to do with arrogance (although many debates over the theology end that way).

True Calvinism is about reassurance of the saints.

The one who believes what Calvin taught (and Paul and Augustine before him BTW) will walk in peace and assurance. And that's a wonderful thing.

5 posted on 10/29/2011 10:40:47 PM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: Siena Dreaming; TheZMan; Alex Murphy
I'm sorry but most (not all) Calvinists on this board do display that kind of "Calvinistic arrogance" which is "I'm saved, you are not. You are going to hell and were predestined to do so, nyaah, nyaah"

The arrogance stems from the Brahminical attitude of "me and my kids are an upper caste Elite Elect (Covenant Theology)"

18 posted on 10/30/2011 12:20:46 AM PDT by Cronos (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2787101/posts?page=58#58)
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To: Siena Dreaming

St. Augustine was overly influenced by his Manichaeanism. The Greek fathers were completely opposed to St. Augustine’s excessive rejection of free-will.

The Western Church suffered from an excessive reliance on St. Augustine rather than the broader view provided by the other Church fathers.


34 posted on 10/30/2011 9:54:48 AM PDT by rzman21
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