Posted on 10/27/2011 2:00:40 PM PDT by NYer
Crucifixes? At a Catholic university? How about that.
Of course, at the heart of this complaint is the hope of establishing a Muslim prayer space on the campus that would be subject to different standards than the rest of the university -- a little enclave of Islamic law where its ban on the display of crosses would be "respected."
It is mentioned below that Muslim students say they like CUA because they feel "safe" and "comfortable." They are receiving the benefits of what Catholics have built at CUA, but are expecting more. They want to bend the institution to their own purposes for their own "comfort."
They think it's a fine place, if it just weren't so, you know, Catholic, and therefore un-Islamic. "University Accused of Discriminating Against Muslims," from CUA's The Tower, October 20 (thanks to B.):
New charges have recently been filed against the University on counts of illegal discrimination against its Muslim and female students. The allegations are being reviewed by the District of Colombia Office of Human Rights (OHR), which has the strictest discrimination laws in the country. President John H. Garvey and the University is being urged to respond to the charges.
John F. Banzhaf III, the George Washington University Professor of Public Interest Law who initiated the legal controversy surrounding same-sex residence halls, is also the one behind these new charges.
You'll want to read this sitting down:
The official allegations claim that CUA, “does not provide space – as other universities do – for the many daily prayers Muslim students must make, forcing them instead to find temporarily empty classrooms where they are often surrounded by Catholic symbols which are incongruous to their religion,” according to a press release on PRLOG.com.
This formal complaint also maintains that the new same-sex residence halls are particularly discriminating against female students, which is a new position on the same-sex lawsuit that began last month.
For both aspects of the complaint: it's a Catholic university, a private institution. No one is being forced to attend it. On the other hand, its very nature and identity puts a giant target on it for social engineering.
Banzhaf claims that the University is denying Muslim students the same benefits that students of other religions are able to enjoy since there is no formal Muslim association sponsored by Catholic University but the Columbus School of Law has an association for Jewish students
“Denying Muslim students the opportunity for form a student group on campus could hardly be based upon any fundamental Catholic doctrine since Georgetown University not only has such a Muslim student group, but also provides its Muslim students with a separate prayer room and even a Muslim chaplain,” said Banzhaf in that press release.
“An important reason [that Muslims are gravitating towards Catholic universities] is that the Muslim students, especially those who are observant, feel comfortable and safe at the institution,” said President Garvey in an interview with NPR in December of 2010. “It’s a place where their own faith practices are mirrored by our own. And they feel both welcome and understood at the campus.”
Gentlemen, start your platitudes:
“Even though it’s a Catholic school, a lot of its teachings are very similar to Islam,” said Al Salmi. “It teaches respect, community service, love, worship etc. which are things that Islam also teaches.”
The discrimination charge asserts that although OHR has been investigating alleged discrimination on campus since Banzhaf’s lawsuit began, “neither the President nor anyone else speaking for the University has sought to explain to the public, or even to CUA’s own students, why it believes that its discrimination does not violate the Human Rights Act.”
“As University spokesman, I have repeatedly explained to anyone who has asked me, including the media, that we reject the premise of Banzhaf’s argument, namely that single-sex residence halls are discriminatory,” said Victor Nakas, University Vice President of Public Affairs. “And we also reject his assumption that the Human Rights Act requires residence halls to be co-ed.”
That does a fine job of illustrating the mindset at work here. Rules and standards are hate and discrimination.
As these charges are being considered by the Office of Human Rights, the University administration said they will continue to work towards the betterment of its students.
“Catholic University is committed to the religious freedom and dignity of all members of its community,” said Nakas. “This includes the dozens of Muslims who come to the University for its academic excellence as well as its demonstrated history of outreach and dialogue to people of all faiths.”
Muslim students have no savior. It’s jealousy plain and simple. It’s really very sad. There is a group of us at my church that prays that they will one day come to know the Truth and accept Jesus Christ as their Lord. After all, He just askes that you live for Him while the demon they currently follow demands that they kill and die for him.
Respect? Then show it for the catholics who have provided you with this opportunity to learn genuine respect.
Send them out back to the wooden crescent-mooned structure.
OK, I am just about on my one last nerve on this Cr@p! Go home people. Yo shouldn’t be in a Catholic University in the first place if you are there for no other reason that to start trouble. Pushing their luck!
I think I need to call a waaambulance for those students.
if the muslim students are offended by the crucifixes, then let them go to a non-Catholic university. I’m sure there is a university acceptable to their delicate natures in Rihyad or the Taliban controlled regions of Afghanistan and Pakistan.
They are breaking the system with our elected officials help. Discriminatory laws are being implimented to protect these muslims far beyond anyone elses. The cancer runs deep
I wonder how tough it must be for Catholic Students going to Muslim University of Saudi Arabia.
>>Denying Muslim students the opportunity for form a student group on campus could hardly be based upon any fundamental Catholic doctrine
Muslims can form their groups when they get to Hell. There won’t be nearly as many Christians there. Until then, they should listen to the Christians and get a real Savior! They’re all welcome to join His club.
...at the heart of this complaint is the hope of establishing a Muslim prayer space on the campus that would be subject to different standards than the rest of the university...Seems like a good space for buzzards to pick the carcasses of dead Muzzies.
It’s likely that there’s more to this than just the usual “jihad” crap. What is this “Office of Human Rights”? I’ll bet that the real target here is the Bill of Rights, and that this originated with the usual left wing deconstructionist crowd.
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Indeed. I'm Catholic so I decided to look up Imam Muhammad ibn Saud Islamic University in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia to see how inclusive it is towards Catholic students. It appears there is no formal Catholic Students Association sponsored by this Islamic University, so they deny Catholic students the opportunity to form a student group on campus. It also does not provide Catholic students with a separate Catholic prayer room or hire an ordained Catholic priest as chaplain. Also, the Minarets and arabic text everywhere are distracting to Catholics like myself. Why don't they build a center dedicated to Pope Pius X on campus? And how about offering some hymns to the Virgin Mary? Then they can be inclusive and tolerant of other faiths. There's such discrimination against Catholics seeking to attend an Islamic University! Let's call the ACLU and sue!
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This is a bunch of horse sh!t. I’m so damn sick and tired of listening to muzzies complain.
These assho!es knew it was a Catholic school before going there. They knew that there would be crucifixes in every room. They knew the school would emphasize Catholic dogma whenever possible as it pertains to each and every subject. But they still went there anyway and are complaining. Again, this is horse sh!t. There is no respect from them for anybody or anything that is outside of their cult of death.
Based on their logic, I should be able to go to any mosque on the planet and insist that they remove the minaret from the dome because it is offensive, racist and intimidating from my point of view.
Screw Islam. Screw Muzzies. This sh!t needs to stop. It makes absolutely no sense why the USA tolerates these sub-human scumbags.
From what I’ve read, this is a nuisance lawsuit by an outrageous professor at George Washington U. without any involvement from Muslim students at Catholic U. He opens his press release with a swipe at Catholic bishops.
He’s an evil man. If we had decent judges, the lawsuit would be thrown out.
I wish someone had standing to countersue him out of existence.
Don’t believe headlines. Focus on the nutcase professor.
Hey, Muslims-
Yeah, well, the five-times-a-day caterwauling from the mosques and the sounds of explosions are offensive to me, but I suck it up when I’m in your environment.
If our religion and culture offend you, then go back to the pile of sand from whence you came.
And don’t let the door hit ya in the butt on the way out.
Capiche?
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