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Precious Promises of the Book of Mormon
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| October 2011
| Thomas S. Monson
Posted on 10/27/2011 7:27:20 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy
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To: Saundra Duffy
SZandy, your snappy retort doesn’t change the reality you are constructing for your destiny.
181
posted on
10/27/2011 7:01:41 PM PDT
by
MHGinTN
(Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
To: Saundra Duffy
“Anyway, my Jesus is all I need to keep me safe and secure. Your Jesus condemns me so I guess your Jesus and my Jesus are different after all. My Jesus loves and accepts me. “
Sorry to break it to you Sandy, but if “your” Jesus is the mormonic Jesus, he’s fake. Non-existent. Imaginary friends are unable to save.
182
posted on
10/27/2011 7:04:07 PM PDT
by
aMorePerfectUnion
(You know, 99.99999965% of the lawyers give all of them a bad name)
To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
But then, they have never attempted to make a TRUE mormon translation of the bible, except for JSs socalled translation. What degree in Hebrew, Caldee and Greek did he have?I agree. On another thread, a mormon undercover tries to say there are many different bibles with different interpretations.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2798520/posts
183
posted on
10/27/2011 7:50:11 PM PDT
by
dragonblustar
(Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
To: Saundra Duffy
It is very touching and spirit filled.
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Well Ask Tommy Monson does appeared to be “touched”
and yes there is a spirit behind what Monson writes thats for sure...
But its not the Spirit of God...
When Monson is asked by a guy Bishop, I know I am about to die. Tell me what happens to my spirit when I do.
Monson though apparantly a BISHOP in the Mormon religion, not only doesnt KNOW what happens to a persons spirit when they die but the idiot doesnt even go to the Christian Bible to find out
but looks in a fictitious book written by an anti-Christian that has nothing to do with the Word of God...
consulting National Geographic would also not have helped the man
But at least it has pretty glossy pictures...
Plus this was a YOUNG man
why didnt Monson prayed for the man to live and to be healed ???
If thats an example of the weak level of “power” and belief that the supposed most “powerful” man in all mormo0ndom has..
no wonder nobody gets healed or delivered from devils in the Mormon religion...
184
posted on
10/27/2011 9:12:07 PM PDT
by
Tennessee Nana
(If we give Sandy a ladder will she preach from the temple roof)
To: Scoutmaster; Alex Murphy; dragonblustar; Tennessee Nana; Logophile; greyfoxx39; Elsie; ...
From there, things get muddy. A Second Edition was published, with corrections. Prophet David O. McKay authorized it. However, although the McConkie family has handwritten notes authorizing the publication, the LDS church says that McKay was 92 and in ill health, and didn't consult his counselors.Spencer Kimball, a member of the First Presidency during the mid-60s, was assigned to personally oversee McConkie's re-draft to ensure that the "errors" earlier id'd in the '58 version were "corrected." So McConkie had an over-the-shoulder "mentor."
185
posted on
10/27/2011 11:17:01 PM PDT
by
Colofornian
(Mitt 'straight'-armed the Utah 'Scouts in the Olympics)
To: Elsie; Saundra Duffy
VICTIMHOOD 101 is still short a few students. Sign up TODAY!LOL.
(A "keeper")
186
posted on
10/27/2011 11:18:53 PM PDT
by
Colofornian
(Mitt 'straight'-armed the Utah 'Scouts in the Olympics)
To: dragonblustar
And Bishops are untrained member of a congregation? If they are untrained, arent they at risk of giving bad advice to the members?
No,
No;
NO!!!
They are working their way UP! (#5)
In conclusion let us summarize this grand key, these Fourteen Fundamentals in Following the Prophet, for our salvation depends on them.
1. The prophet is the only man who speaks for the Lord in everything.
2. The living prophet is more vital to us than the standard works.
3. The living prophet is more important to us than a dead prophet.
4. The prophet will never lead the church astray.
5. The prophet is not required to have any particular earthly training or credentials to speak on any subject or act on any matter at any time.
6. The prophet does not have to say Thus Saith the Lord, to give us scripture.
7. The prophet tells us what we need to know, not always what we want to know.
8. The prophet is not limited by mens reasoning.
9. The prophet can receive revelation on any matter, temporal or spiritual.
10. The prophet may advise on civic matters.
11. The two groups who have the greatest difficulty in following the prophet are the proud who are learned and the proud who are rich.
12. The prophet will not necessarily be popular with the world or the worldly.
13. The prophet and his counselors make up the First Presidencythe highest quorum in the Church.
14. The prophet and the presidencythe living prophet and the First Presidencyfollow them and be blessedreject them and suffer.
I testify that these fourteen fundamentals in following the living prophet are true. If we want to know how well we stand with the Lord then let us ask ourselves how well we stand with His mortal captainhow close do our lives harmonize with the Lords anointedthe living ProphetPresident of the Church, and with the Quorum of the First Presidency.
Ezra Taft Benson
(Address given Tuesday, February 26, 1980 at Brigham Young University)
187
posted on
10/28/2011 4:18:49 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
To: Tennessee Nana; Saundra Duffy
Another day older and deeper in debt... DOUBT!She wouldn't be fighting SO hard, if the doubts about MORMONism were not beginning to really rattle her faith.
188
posted on
10/28/2011 4:21:03 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
To: Saundra Duffy; Jim Robinson
This site lists LDS under other Christian - Members of the LDS Church are Christians on steroids.FreeRepublic?
Jim; you may want to look into this.
189
posted on
10/28/2011 4:22:34 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
To: Saundra Duffy
This site lists LDS under other Christian - Members of the LDS Church are Christians on steroids.Oh; they are on SOMETHING alright; but they sure are NOT Christians.
190
posted on
10/28/2011 4:23:51 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
To: smvoice
I don't know if I've ever posted to you before, but I do read your posts and like the way you think! Regards, smvoice Do NOT tell her that!
It only encourages her!
--MormonDude(Can't a fellow get a break on FR any more?)
191
posted on
10/28/2011 4:25:19 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
To: Tennessee Nana
Utah takes more proscription drugs for depression than just about any other state...Now THAT'S what I'm TALKIN' about!
192
posted on
10/28/2011 4:26:03 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
To: Tennessee Nana
Utah takes more proscription drugs for depression than just about any other state...Now THAT'S what I'm TALKIN' about!
193
posted on
10/28/2011 4:41:14 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
To: Alex Murphy
Should We Stop Addressing Old Teachings and Non-Official Beliefs? -Mormon- (OPEN)Hecky FRAK!
We are told not to discuss the NEW ones!!
--MormonDude(So many changes; so little time to keep up.)
194
posted on
10/28/2011 4:44:11 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
To: Alex Murphy
...theological consistency is less important to Latter-day Saints...All together now...
DUH!
195
posted on
10/28/2011 4:45:10 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
To: Saundra Duffy
Anyway, my Jesus is all I need to keep me safe and secure. YOU are NOT a MORMON!
In conclusion let us summarize this grand key, these Fourteen Fundamentals in Following the Prophet, for our salvation depends on them.
1. The prophet is the only man who speaks for the Lord in everything.
2. The living prophet is more vital to us than the standard works.
3. The living prophet is more important to us than a dead prophet.
4. The prophet will never lead the church astray.
5. The prophet is not required to have any particular earthly training or credentials to speak on any subject or act on any matter at any time.
6. The prophet does not have to say Thus Saith the Lord, to give us scripture.
7. The prophet tells us what we need to know, not always what we want to know.
8. The prophet is not limited by mens reasoning.
9. The prophet can receive revelation on any matter, temporal or spiritual.
10. The prophet may advise on civic matters.
11. The two groups who have the greatest difficulty in following the prophet are the proud who are learned and the proud who are rich.
12. The prophet will not necessarily be popular with the world or the worldly.
13. The prophet and his counselors make up the First Presidencythe highest quorum in the Church.
14. The prophet and the presidencythe living prophet and the First Presidencyfollow them and be blessedreject them and suffer.
I testify that these fourteen fundamentals in following the living prophet are true. If we want to know how well we stand with the Lord then let us ask ourselves how well we stand with His mortal captainhow close do our lives harmonize with the Lords anointedthe living ProphetPresident of the Church, and with the Quorum of the First Presidency.
Ezra Taft Benson
(Address given Tuesday, February 26, 1980 at Brigham Young University)
196
posted on
10/28/2011 4:48:45 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
To: Saundra Duffy
So you dont have a temple recommend ???
197
posted on
10/28/2011 4:50:01 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
To: dragonblustar
What degree in Hebrew, Caldee and Greek did he have?
The "Caractors" are the only tangible evidence in existence related to Smith's story. No gold plates, no brass plates, no peep stones, no Urim and Thummim... only these "Caractors," not a single one of which is in the purported languages.
Smith's translation of the Caractors. According to Martin Harris (Joseph Smith - History, 1:64), "I went to the city of New York, and presented the characters which had been translated, with the translation thereof, to Professor Charles Anthon, a gentleman celebrated for his literary attainments. Professor Anthon stated that the translation was correct, more so than any he had before seen translated from the Egyptian. I then showed him those which were not yet translated,* and he said they were Egyptian, Chaldaic, Assyriac, and Arabic; and he said they were true characters."
Speak right up now in all truthfulness. Isn't it revealing how Smith started out making a stab at creating believable "caractors" but quckly gave up and produced nothing but squiggles, ending up wih a series of nothing more than crude little scribbles? Yet Professor Anthon supposedly translated them!
*Harris must have had two or three pieces of paper with himone with characters and a translation of them (on the same paper or a separate one) and one with untranslated charactersquite likely the "Caractors." Some Mormon "scholars" have gone out on a limb, sawed it off, and knocked themselves out trying to translate from these true Egyptian, Chaldaic, Assyriac, and Arabic characters a segment that would correspond with a verse from 1 Nephi.
Modern-day experts in Egyptian, Chaldaic, Assyriac, and Arabic. In 1829, any knowledge of these languages possessed by U.S. scholars would have been rudimentary at best. Expertise in them has vastly improved since then. So go ahead, do it. Get any modern expert in these languages to identify which of these "Caractors" are Egyptian, Chaldaic, Assyriac and Arabic. Better still, accept the claim of Mormon apologists that Anthon did indeed so testify and that his appraisal of the Caractors was correct. (Op. cit, pp. 73-75)
Save your money! Samples of Assyriac/Aramaic and Arabic writing:
What say you? Which of Smith's "Caractors" resemble the Assyriac and Arabic ones? No need to pay experts for their analysis. A child could accurately check this out. These writing systems have remained constant for well over 3000 years.
198
posted on
10/28/2011 4:51:20 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
To: Tennessee Nana
why didnt Monson prayed for the man to live and to be healed ???Do any MORMONs speak in tongues at any of their meetings?
199
posted on
10/28/2011 4:52:37 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
To: Colofornian
Well then; have ANOTHER "101"!
Welcome to MORMONism 101
While we are waiting to start; enjoy the artwork on our walls.
If some of it seems shifty to you, just look at it real close and it will stop moving,
but another location will then start to crawl on you.
Do NOT think our DOCTRINE is this way!
200
posted on
10/28/2011 4:55:39 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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