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Why do men stay away?
Christian Century ^ | October 20, 2011 | Thomas G. Long

Posted on 10/23/2011 6:23:05 PM PDT by hiho hiho

Gathered around the coffeepot in a church fellowship hall on a fall Sunday, a gaggle of men are talking with animation and passion, joking and bragging in the way of males. The topic? Football, of course. "How 'bout them Devils! D'ya see that pick six in the third quarter? Amazing! Hey, Joe, sorry about your Dawgs! Maybe you'll get 'em next week, if they don't fire your coach first!" In a few minutes, many will wander into worship, the married ones joining their wives. As the first hymn begins, some of them will stand and keep silent guard, staring mutely into space as the women beside them sing.

What is it with men and church? We men are famously outnumbered, to be sure. According to a recent survey, we make up only 39 percent of the worshipers in a typical congregation. This is not just because we die earlier and leave the pews filled with the sturdier gender. The percentages hold across the board, for every age category.

Even when we do show up for worship, we're often not particularly happy about it. This is not breaking news, of course. Study after study has shown that many men who name themselves as Christian feel bored, alienated and disengaged from church. When we drag ourselves to church, researchers say, it is not for ourselves but to fulfill the obligations of our roles as son, husband, father or pastor.

Why are men and the church often at odds? Sadly, many of the answers are as insulting as they are misguided. Some researchers are persuaded that the antipathy of men to church resides at the hormonal level. They argue that men, loaded as they are with testosterone, have a proclivity to impulsive, risk-taking, occasionally violent action—exactly the behavior disallowed in the soft world of worship. Given this theory, what enticements can the wimpy church possibly offer us men when we compare it to the joys of hiding away in a man cave, stuffing our maws with pizza and beer as we watch Da Bears and heading out after sundown to rip off a few wheel covers and rumble in the Wal-Mart parking lot?

Others propose a more political and historical explanation, namely that centuries of male control of the church have yielded to an ineluctable force of feminization. Pastel worship, passive and sentimental images of the Christian life, handholding around the communion table and hymns that coo about lover-boy Jesus who "walks with me and talks with me" have replaced stronger, more masculine themes. One man reported that the first thing he does when he walks into a church is to look at the curtains. One glance tells him all he needs to know about who's making the decisions.

Really? The feminine erosion of the church? As David Foster Wallace said in a different context, this is an idea "so stupid it practically drools." Even sillier are the proposed masculine remedies. One website suggests "Ten Ways to Man Up Your Church," beginning with obtaining "a manly pastor" who projects "a healthy masculinity." This patently ignores strong women clergy, of course, but it also denigrates the capacity of men to recognize and respond to able leadership regardless of gender or stereotypes. I recently visited a church with a chest-thumping manly pastor. After worship, one man in the congregation confided, "I feel like I'm on the set of a Tarzan movie." As for "manning up" worship, I know that if my church begins handing out NASCAR jackets with the bulletins, I'm going to look for a different church—maybe one with lace curtains.

Still, the numbers don't lie. Men are staying away from church. The reasons are undoubtedly complex, but perhaps a clue can be found in a Christian group that attracts men and women in roughly equal numbers: Eastern Orthodoxy. A cynic might say that men are attracted to Orthodoxy because it is conservative, with an all-male clergy, many of them sporting beards. The finding of religion journalist Frederica Mathewes-Green, however, is closer to the truth. She surveyed male adult converts and discovered that Orthodoxy's main appeal is that it's "challenging." One convert said, "Orthodoxy is serious. It is difficult. It is demanding. It is about mercy, but it is also about overcoming myself." Another said that he was sick of "bourgeois, feel-good American Christianity."

Yes, some churchgoers are satisfied with feel-good Christianity, but I think many Christians—women and men—yearn for a more costly, demanding, life-changing discipleship. Perhaps women are more patient when they don't find it, or more discerning of the deeper cross-bearing opportunities that lie beneath the candied surface. Men take a walk or hang around the church coffeepot talking in jargon about football: another disciplined and costly arena of life in which people sacrifice their bodies and their individual desires for a larger cause that matters to them, at least for the moment. Near transcendence is preferable to no transcendence at all.


TOPICS: Orthodox Christian; Religion & Culture; Worship
KEYWORDS: divorceindustry; fatherless; feminism; men; menandthechurch; romanticism
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"Pastel worship, passive and sentimental images of the Christian life, handholding around the communion table and hymns that coo about lover-boy Jesus who "walks with me and talks with me" have replaced stronger, more masculine themes"
1 posted on 10/23/2011 6:23:09 PM PDT by hiho hiho
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To: hiho hiho
Really? The feminine erosion of the church? As David Foster Wallace said in a different context, this is an idea "so stupid it practically drools."

I notice the author doesn't try to refute the idea with facts or reasoning but with a typical leftist's response of "ur stoopid".

2 posted on 10/23/2011 6:30:29 PM PDT by jtal (Runnin' a World in Need with White Folks' Greed - since 1492)
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To: hiho hiho
In the American Catholic Church it started with Folk Masses.

Even when I was a kid I said ughh and complained...a lot...as an altar boy when I was assigned to serve at them.

3 posted on 10/23/2011 6:32:15 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: buccaneer81

Same here. They changed from the Latin Mass when I was 7, and then we got the sign of peace and guitar mass and it touchy feely Jesus showed up and bored us all to death.


4 posted on 10/23/2011 6:35:56 PM PDT by magritte
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To: hiho hiho
What is it with men and church? We men are famously outnumbered, to be sure. According to a recent survey, we make up only 39 percent of the worshipers in a typical congregation.

What a bunch of dribble---according to a recent survey is where one should stop reading...

5 posted on 10/23/2011 6:39:23 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: hiho hiho
...perhaps a clue can be found in a Christian group that attracts men and women in roughly equal numbers: Eastern Orthodoxy. A cynic might say that men are attracted to Orthodoxy because it is conservative, with an all-male clergy...

The feminizing of Christianity is part of the problem - the other part is the 'liberalization' of Christianity... Some churches feel like they're extensions of the democrat party...

6 posted on 10/23/2011 6:39:42 PM PDT by GOPJ (OWS - a scam to shift blame for unemployment and misery away from Obama..)
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To: hiho hiho

There is also sitting around listen to a pastor beggar the point. Forty minutes is plenty of time to deliver an effective sermon.

Singing “He walks with me” just ain’t the same as “Onward Christian Soldiers” or “The Olde Rugged Cross”.

Then listening to a preacher pretty much deliver a eulogy and say the deceased is going to hell because he didn’t attend that church.


7 posted on 10/23/2011 6:39:49 PM PDT by Hawk1976 (It is better to die in battle than it is to live as a slave.)
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To: hiho hiho
What is it with men and church? We men are famously outnumbered, to be sure. According to a recent survey, we make up only 39 percent of the worshipers in a typical congregation.

What a bunch of dribble---according to a recent survey is where one should stop reading...

8 posted on 10/23/2011 6:40:08 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: hiho hiho

Secularism, Agnosticism. Priest’s and Bishops have had an effect as well.
There were more practicing people 100 years ago in the USof A and Europe than today.

The Church grew almost 7000 % in Africa and the South Pacific in the same period of time.


9 posted on 10/23/2011 6:42:17 PM PDT by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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To: hiho hiho

Personally, the church the author describes is an unbiblical new age church and will never prosper under the hand of almighty God. The church as it should be is laid out in the Epistles of Paul, the apostle to the Gentiles and a female clergy is anathema and is antichrist.
I stick to the independent bible believing churchs and away from the dying and dead mainline cults and denominations.


10 posted on 10/23/2011 6:42:24 PM PDT by kindred ( Third party conservatism is on the rise, God bless the conservative tea party.)
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To: magritte
Yes, I attended a Catholic High School and the first year in March they have an annual week long retreat at the school where you don't talk during the school day and attend Jesuit lectures between meditative periods and reading.

I found that interesting, but then in the 2nd year Vatican II took hold and it became guitars and poems and folk singing and I thought I was in a Saturday night Episcopal coffee shop.

11 posted on 10/23/2011 6:43:03 PM PDT by AU72
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To: hiho hiho

I’ve never missed a single weekend mass since I was baptized. I’m just programmed to show up for mass but to be honest, when I was younger all i did was scan the congregation for hot chicks until my Mom told me to knock it off.


12 posted on 10/23/2011 6:44:20 PM PDT by max americana
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To: magritte

Then they took away the altar rail, then civilians dispensed communion...it was a huge mistake to be ‘trendy.’


13 posted on 10/23/2011 6:45:04 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: magritte

I stopped going to mass when we had two priests in a row who were molesting little boys.

That doesn’t make me hate God. I just don’t like the church.


14 posted on 10/23/2011 6:45:35 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (I just don't like anything about the President. And I don't think he's a nice guy.)
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To: Hawk1976
Forty minutes is plenty of time to deliver an effective sermon.

I'm glad I grew up Catholic. 40 minutes could cover our pastor's entire Mass. I was home less than an hour after I left the house for Mass in the first place.

15 posted on 10/23/2011 6:48:16 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Hawk1976
Forty minutes is plenty of time to deliver an effective sermon.

I'm glad I grew up Catholic. 40 minutes could cover our pastor's entire Mass. I was home less than an hour after I left the house for Mass in the first place.

16 posted on 10/23/2011 6:48:35 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: GOPJ

A lot of why men stay away is that the church is compromised. We teach accomodation, instead of protection.

If the church would quit compromising with the world and would work to protect doctrine, men would return.

We need to have church warriors if we want men to be in the church.


17 posted on 10/23/2011 6:49:20 PM PDT by Jonty30
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To: hiho hiho
Why do men stay away?

'cuz.

18 posted on 10/23/2011 6:49:39 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (...then they came for the guitars, and we kicked their sorry faggot asses into the dust)
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To: buccaneer81

I’ll tell you, as a child, the altar rail, the priest, the songs, the text, is seemed so ... serious.

Then my friend’s mom was giving me communion. She liked porcelain cats. Unserious.


19 posted on 10/23/2011 6:50:18 PM PDT by magritte
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To: Vermont Lt

As a youth, it was quite the opposite. My priest liked the ladies and eventually became too “popular”. He was replaced by another priest that sure had “that look” though.


20 posted on 10/23/2011 6:51:51 PM PDT by magritte
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