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To: smvoice

Or you could just say you jumped on the “disappearing second commandment” without due diligence to check, accepting it apparently based on fundamental prejudicial view. I’m no longer surprised that some are willing to believe the most outrageous things, I think because they have this idea of the Church that belongs back during the Wars of Religion.

I forget who said it, but it goes something like: Not many oppose what the Church teaches , but what they think the Church teaches.

And there is a way to cure ignorance, but it takes time and a willingness to know the subject before engaging in discussion.

The Church is as old as Acts, she has weathered every variation of false doctrine and theology and heresy you can think of and then some. The Church’s writings, by theologians, Saints and scholars, in her long history are immense, accumulated over two millenia. The language and terminology are specific developed over this long history and encompass all aspects of Christology, Salvation, liturgy, church structure, spiritual practice, etc.

A shallow knowledge combined with severe prejudice is not recommended preparation for real discussion.


728 posted on 10/27/2011 8:33:01 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: D-fendr

..or I can say what I’ve already said. And mean it. It’s proven daily here.


733 posted on 10/27/2011 8:36:22 PM PDT by smvoice (The Cross was NOT God's Plan B.)
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To: D-fendr; smvoice
Are these not the Catholic ten commandments?

1.I am the Lord thy God; thou shalt not have strange gods (small g!) before me.
2. Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain.
3. Remember thou keep holy the Lord‘s Day.
4. Honor thy father and thy mother.
5. Thou shall not kill.
6. Thou shalt not commit adultery.
7. Thou shalt not steal.
8. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.
9. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s wife.
10. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s goods.

Then from scripture.

Exodus 20:3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me. 4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth 5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; 6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments. 7 Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain. 8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: 10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: 11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it. 12 Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee. 13 Thou shalt not kill. 14 Thou shalt not commit adultery. 15 Thou shalt not steal. 16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour. 17 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.

Notice any difference?

747 posted on 10/27/2011 9:27:27 PM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: D-fendr
" ... you jumped on the “disappearing second commandment” without due diligence to check,"

I seriously doubt it was without due diligence since that old canard is straight out of the He Who Cannot Be Mentioned comic books. It's interesting catching up on these post because that's not the only one of the errors widely distributed as a comic book attack of the Catholic Church that seems to have made it's way here. It really depends on what the person posting such bunk thinks is a worthy source for their disinformation.

Regards

836 posted on 10/28/2011 4:40:36 PM PDT by Rashputin (Obama stark, raving, mad, and even his security people know it.)
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