[Cronos]

Not really — your post is sneaky. Why don’t you explain your buddy’s belief in Limited Atonement, Double Predestination and Covenant Theology first?

[metmom]

Not really — your post is sneaky. Why don’t you explain your buddy’s belief in Limited Atonement, Double Predestination and Covenant Theology first?

No. What's sneaky, not to mention disingenuous and intellectually dishonest and a cop out, is to deflect the argument and turn it around on someone to avoid giving the apology that you ought.

bb cannot read anybody's mind. If you want to know what someone thinks on limited atonement and double predestination and covenant theology, ask THEM yourself.

But don't throw that responsibility back on someone in a bid to avoid manning up and apologizing when you've been proved wrong.

[Iscool]

Why don’t you explain your buddy’s belief in Limited Atonement

Isn't the Catholic religion the one that believes in Limited Atonement, or No Atonement At All???

[boatbums]

As I expected. Certain people are genetically indisposed to ever admit they err. It is especially apparent when anyone can go back to written posts on a forum such as this to see for themselves that someone was indeed wrong. It takes personal maturity and a certain amount of grace to admit wrongly accusing another of what of they, themselves, are guilty.

It is also apparent that this same attitude is involved in the very subject of this thread - that of grace, faith and the satisfaction for sin that our Creator has given us as his most amazing gift. Some people bask in their own merit, goodness and works and presume they are adequate to earn them their ultimate goal - dwelling with the Creator for eternity. In a pretended humility, some will admit that they may come short of absolute holiness, so to not appear boastful or proud, they will express hope in an intermediate sphere where slight faults and missed opportunities to do good are washed from their souls and then they can proceed to the goal knowing they have earned it ever so much.

I pity the shock and anguish they will experience when they discover - too late - that God did not accept their merits, efforts, works, deeds, but a full and unhindered surrender to HIS holiness and perfection that he freely gives to us when we rest and trust in his mercy and grace to redeem us. They will be astonished when they finally understand that this grace of God that was not only sufficient to save them to the uttermost but was also what would take hold within them to do the works - the ones he REALLY wanted - that accomplished his will upon the earth and would draw the unsaved to him, as well. I continue to pray for those for whom it is not too late.