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To: Cronos
As I said before, we cannot overcome our sins alone -- sanctification/purgatory is sanctification by GOD's grace alone.

Which happened at the cross and was done for us forever. The purification rites given the O.T. Priest have done been fulfilled, completed, and finsished.

Take it this way -- after baptism by the Holy Spirit we are not condemned, but most of us still sin in small ways, yet we are on God's process of sanctification by the sacrifice of Christ as in Heaven there is no sin.

We ALL have sinned all except Jesus Christ while in this world have sinned. Our sins both before and after recieving Christ are buried and dead. They are no more. Only our deeds which determine our treasures in heaven face a test of purity afterward. Deeds both good and bad are tested for purity but not our physical or spiritual bodies. Our physical bodies are returned to dust {begin to decay} & our spiritual ones are with Christ the moment we die. It doesn't take a second removal the first one suffices.

1 Corinthians 15 v45The Scriptures tell us, “The first man, Adam, became a living person.”£ But the last Adam—that is, Christ—is a life-giving Spirit. 46What came first was the natural body, then the spiritual body comes later. 47Adam, the first man, was made from the dust of the earth, while Christ, the second man, came from heaven. 48Every human being has an earthly body just like Adam’s, but our heavenly bodies will be just like Christ’s. 49Just as we are now like Adam, the man of the earth, so we will someday be like Christ, the man from heaven. 50What I am saying, dear brothers and sisters, is that flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God. These perishable bodies of ours are not able to live forever. 51But let me tell you a wonderful secret God has revealed to us. Not all of us will die, but we will all be transformed. 52It will happen in a moment, in the blinking of an eye, when the last trumpet is blown. For when the trumpet sounds, the Christians who have died£ will be raised with transformed bodies. And then we who are living will be transformed so that we will never die. 53For our perishable earthly bodies must be transformed into heavenly bodies that will never die. 54When this happens—when our perishable earthly bodies have been transformed into heavenly bodies that will never die—then at last the Scriptures will come true: “Death is swallowed up in victory.£ 55O death, where is your victory? O death, where is your sting?”£

The Last Trumpet in this case is not the blast mentioned in The Revelation. The unbelievers are not mentioned in this and those passages was directed at believers so they would know.

The Last or The Second Blast is the wedding blast the Father announces to The Groom bring home your bride. The first one occured 2000 years ago announcing the physical birth of Christ. The mystery is those who are alive physically at the time this event happens where some will be instantly transformed can be at any time. When? Who knows? Only the Father knows. Tonight? Possibly, or tomorrow possible as well, several hundred more years? Yea that is possible also.

330 posted on 10/24/2011 11:51:56 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: cva66snipe
Which happened at the cross and was done for us forever

yes, I agree that we WERE Saved by Christ's sacrifice. This was done once and forever. Yet, as the scripture notes we are being saved -- the sacrifice of Christ forgave all sins, but we are being saved -- we who are saved are being saved -- in the sanctification process.

2 Cor 4:16 For which cause we faint not; but though our outward man perish, yet the inward man is renewed day by day

The purification rites given the O.T. Priest have done been fulfilled, completed, and finsished.

yes, I agree. It was done, completed. Christ's sacrifice saves you today and saved your ancestors yesterday and will save your descendants -- this one-time sacrifice saves and is saving us today by the grace of God

We ALL have sinned all except Jesus Christ while in this world have sinned. -- yes.

Let me repeat that purgatory/final sanctification is only for those going to heaven. If at the time of your death you're headed the other way, no dice, no final sanctification.

If you are "in" final sanctification, then you are going to heaven, cleaned of all the impurity of sin. You are not going to be able to do "anything" to get "out" of this sanctification -- that sanctification is by the grace of God.

332 posted on 10/25/2011 1:43:42 AM PDT by Cronos (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2787101/posts?page=58#58)
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