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To: boatbums; RnMomof7; Natural Law; Mad Dawg; sayuncledave
to say that the "commands of Jesus" were given to believers ALONE is Brahminical

look at Matthew 4:17-25

17 7 From that time on, Jesus began to preach and say, "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand."
18 8 As he was walking by the Sea of Galilee, he saw two brothers, Simon who is called Peter, and his brother Andrew, casting a net into the sea; they were fishermen.
19 He said to them, "Come after me, and I will make you fishers of men."
20 9 At once they left their nets and followed him.
21 He walked along from there and saw two other brothers, James, the son of Zebedee, and his brother John. They were in a boat, with their father Zebedee, mending their nets. He called them,
22 and immediately they left their boat and their father and followed him.
23 10 He went around all of Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, 11 proclaiming the gospel of the kingdom, and curing every disease and illness among the people.
24 12 His fame spread to all of Syria, and they brought to him all who were sick with various diseases and racked with pain, those who were possessed, lunatics, and paralytics, and he cured them.
25 And great crowds from Galilee, the Decapolis, 13 Jerusalem, and Judea, and from beyond the Jordan followed him.

Jesus had just started His ministry. The crowds were not believers yet. Or if they were, they sure went away fast when they found out more about Christianity. Now, how does the Sermon wind up?
Matthew 7:21
"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, 10 but only the one who does the will of my Father in heaven.
22 Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name? Did we not drive out demons in your name? Did we not do mighty deeds in your name?'
23 Then I will declare to them solemnly, 'I never knew you. 11 Depart from me, you evildoers.'
24 12 "Everyone who listens to these words of mine and acts on them will be like a wise man who built his house on rock.
25 The rain fell, the floods came, and the winds blew and buffeted the house. But it did not collapse; it had been set solidly on rock.
26 And everyone who listens to these words of mine but does not act on them will be like a fool who built his house on sand.
27 The rain fell, the floods came, and the winds blew and buffeted the house. And it collapsed and was completely ruined."
28 13 When Jesus finished these words, the crowds were astonished at his teaching,
29 14 for he taught them as one having authority, and not as their scribes.

How were they described? They were astonished!!! Not converted, not baptized, not made believers, just astonished. Just as the Pharisees and the Sadducees were. Let us go to the Plain.

Luke 6: 12 3 In those days he departed to the mountain to pray, and he spent the night in prayer 4 to God.
13 When day came, he called his disciples to himself, and from them he chose Twelve, 5 whom he also named apostles:
14 Simon, whom he named Peter, 6 and his brother Andrew, James, John, Philip, Bartholomew,
15 Matthew, Thomas, James the son of Alphaeus, Simon who was called a Zealot, 7
16 and Judas the son of James, and Judas Iscariot, 8 who became a traitor.
17 9 And he came down with them and stood on a stretch of level ground. A great crowd of his disciples and a large number of the people from all Judea and Jerusalem and the coastal region of Tyre and Sidon
18 came to hear him and to be healed of their diseases; and even those who were tormented by unclean spirits were cured. 19 Everyone in the crowd sought to touch him because power came forth from him and healed them all.<

People came because He healed them, not because they were baptized (or elect) believers. The Gospel does not say that. But let us turn to the last 2/3 of the chapter of Matthew 22. These give numerous examples of why the Brahminical attitude is as unScriptural as the WCF.

Matthew 22: 15 8 Then the Pharisees 9 went off and plotted how they might entrap him in speech.
16 They sent their disciples to him, with the Herodians, 10 saying, "Teacher, we know that you are a truthful man and that you teach the way of God in accordance with the truth. And you are not concerned with anyone's opinion, for you do not regard a person's status.
17 11 Tell us, then, what is your opinion: Is it lawful to pay the census tax to Caesar or not?"
18 Knowing their malice, Jesus said, "Why are you testing me, you hypocrites?
19 12 Show me the coin that pays the census tax." Then they handed him the Roman coin.
20 He said to them, "Whose image is this and whose inscription?"
21 They replied, "Caesar's." 13 At that he said to them, "Then repay to Caesar what belongs to Caesar and to God what belongs to God."
22 When they heard this they were amazed, and leaving him they went away.
23 14 On that day Sadducees approached him, saying that there is no resurrection. 15 They put this question to him,
24 saying, "Teacher, Moses said, 'If a man dies 16 without children, his brother shall marry his wife and raise up descendants for his brother.' 25 Now there were seven brothers among us. The first married and died and, having no descendants, left his wife to his brother.
26 The same happened with the second and the third, through all seven.
27 Finally the woman died. 28 Now at the resurrection, of the seven, whose wife will she be? For they all had been married to her."
29 17 Jesus said to them in reply, "You are misled because you do not know the scriptures or the power of God.
30 At the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage but are like the angels in heaven.
31 And concerning the resurrection of the dead, have you not read what was said to you 18 by God,
32 'I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob'? He is not the God of the dead but of the living."
33 When the crowds heard this, they were astonished at his teaching.
34 19 When the Pharisees heard that he had silenced the Sadducees, they gathered together,
35 and one of them [a scholar of the law] 20 tested him by asking,
36 "Teacher, 21 which commandment in the law is the greatest?"
37 He said to him, 22 "You shall love the Lord, your God, with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.
38 This is the greatest and the first commandment.
39 The second is like it: 23 You shall love your neighbor as yourself.
40 24 The whole law and the prophets depend on these two commandments."
41 25 26 While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus questioned them,
42 27 saying, "What is your opinion about the Messiah? Whose son is he?" They replied, "David's."
43 He said to them, "How, then, does David, inspired by the Spirit, call him 'lord,' saying:
44 'The Lord said to my lord, "Sit at my right hand until I place your enemies under your feet"'?
45 28 If David calls him 'lord,' how can he be his son?"
46 No one was able to answer him a word, nor from that day on did anyone dare to ask him any more questions.

Be you as stony as a Biblical execution, how can you not read these words of Jesus and repent of your and your good boddys' nonScriptural and unChristian posts?

326 posted on 10/24/2011 11:07:29 PM PDT by Cronos (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2787101/posts?page=58#58)
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To: Cronos; boatbums; RnMomof7; Natural Law; Mad Dawg; sayuncledave
>>to say that the "commands of Jesus" were given to believers ALONE is Brahminical<<

John 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

It stands to reason then that those who are not “of His flock” ie believers, do not even hear His voice.

>>Be you as stony as a Biblical execution, how can you not read these words of Jesus and repent of your and your good boddys' nonScriptural and unChristian posts?<<

Perhaps if you understood ALL of scripture you would realize that those who are not of Jesus flock don’t even “hear” (as in understand) what He says. So indeed Jesus words are only for those who believe and are part of His flock.

341 posted on 10/25/2011 6:51:05 AM PDT by CynicalBear
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