One of those Catholic doctrines like the Immaculate Conception some of us protestants have scriptural difficulty with.
52 Then the Jews began to argue sharply among themselves, “How can this man give us his flesh to eat?”53 Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. 54 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day. 55 For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. 56 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in them. 57 Just as the living Father sent me and I live because of the Father, so the one who feeds on me will live because of me. 58 This is the bread that came down from heaven. Your ancestors ate manna and died, but whoever feeds on this bread will live forever.” 59 He said this while teaching in the synagogue in Capernaum. Many Disciples Desert Jesus
60 On hearing it, many of his disciples said, “This is a hard teaching. Who can accept it?”
61 Aware that his disciples were grumbling about this, Jesus said to them, “Does this offend you? 62 Then what if you see the Son of Man ascend to where he was before! 63 The Spirit gives life; the flesh counts for nothing. The words I have spoken to you—they are full of the Spirit[e] and life. 64 Yet there are some of you who do not believe.” For Jesus had known from the beginning which of them did not believe and who would betray him. 65 He went on to say, “This is why I told you that no one can come to me unless the Father has enabled them.”
66 From this time many of his disciples turned back and no longer followed him.
67 “You do not want to leave too, do you?” Jesus asked the Twelve.
68 Simon Peter answered him, “Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life. 69 We have come to believe and to know that you are the Holy One of God.”
As well as some Catholics. I'm sorry, but my wife and I went to Catholic school together for 12 years, but we just don't understand (or believe) "Transubstantiation, the "Immaculate Conception," and many other doctrines of the faith. We believe that they were created by man, not God. We respect Catholics, but we prefer to worship in other Christian churches.
The dogma of the real presence predates the canonization of the New Testament. Not to mention, the Orthodox more or less share the same doctrine as the Catholic Church although Aristotle’s terminology isn’t used.
Eastern Catholics don’t make use of Aristotle’s philosophy.
The Protestant denial of the real presence is a 16th century innovation that the earliest Christians would have found odd.
i hope you believe St John understood what the Eucharist is, whether it is merely bread or it is the Body of Christ.
after all, he was present at the Last Supper and we know he was inspired by the Holy Spirit.
now, if we agree on St John, can we also agree that Ignatius was taught what the Eucharist was by St John correctly? i am sure you were taught what your pastor thinks the Lord’s Supper is, just as Ignatius was taught by St John.
now, Ignatius wrote 7 epistles in the late first century just before he was martyred in Rome for his faith.
in one of these epistles, Ignatius says the Gnostics did not participate in the Eucharist because they denied it was the Body of Christ.
why do protestants continue with this gnostic heresy?
Scriptural difficulty? Jesus said “This is My Body”, He didn’t say this represents my body.
i would say the difficulty is not scriptural, but rather using the natural mind rather than the eyes of faith.
Why?
Christ says, “This is my body.” This is my blood.”
Or are you someone who does not know what the meaning of “is” is?
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