To: circlecity; Terry Mross
"Mormons believe that in 1820 a young Joseph Smith went into the woods to pray." And the same smith that wrote nearly a dozen varying and contradictaory accounts of this event.
4 posted on
10/17/2011 8:16:10 AM PDT by
Godzilla
(3-7-77)
To: Godzilla
“And the same smith that wrote nearly a dozen varying and contradictaory accounts of this event.”
Well it took awhile to come up with a version enough people would believe. LOL!!
6 posted on
10/17/2011 8:32:57 AM PDT by
Georgia Girl 2
(The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
To: Godzilla
Have we been called bigots or haters yet today for showing the truth of the LDS?
8 posted on
10/17/2011 8:37:38 AM PDT by
ejonesie22
(8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
To: Godzilla; greyfoxx39
And the same smith that wrote nearly a dozen varying and contradictaory accounts of this event.Godzilla? I think Joseph Smith, Jr. wrote only four of the accounts:
- The 1832 version, in his own handwriting (from Joseph Smith Letterbook 1, pp.2,3);
- The 1835 version (a November 9, 1835 entry in his diary);
- The 1838 version, first published in Times and Season, March 15, 1842, vol. 3, no. 10, pp. 727-728, 748-749, 753, and adopted by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints as the Official Version; and
- The 1844 version, in the chapter on Mormonism written by Joseph Smith for the book, An Original History of the Religious Denominations at Present Existing in the United States (edited by Daniel Rupp).
The other accounts weren't written by Joseph Smith:
- 1827, told by Joseph Smith, Sr. and Joseph Smith, Jr. to Willard Chase, and contained in Chase's 1833 affidavit;
- 1827, told by Martin Harris to given to Rev. John Clark, and published in his book Gleanings by the Way, printed in 1842, pp. 222-229;
- 1830, recounted by Joseph Smith to Peter Bauder in an interview, and then published in The Kingdom and the Gospel of Jesus Christ, printed in 1834, pp. 36-38;
- 1834/35, written by Oliver Cowery with Joseph Smith's help in the LDS periodical, LDS periodical Messenger and Advocate, Kirtland, Ohio, Dec. 1834, vol.1, no.3, as the first history of Mormonism;1835, as told by Smith to Erastus Holmes on November 14, 1835, originally published in the Deseret News of Saturday May 29, 1852; and
- 1859, by Martin Harris, in Tiffanys Monthly, 1859, New York: Published by Joel Tiffany, vol. v.12, pp. 163-170.
I don't consider pointing this out as "anti-Mormon." The LDS church recognizes that that Joseph Smith wrote or dictated four accounts and that they differ. Joseph Smith's Recitals of the First Vision, which is the LDS church's official reconciliation of differences in Smith's four accounts, comes straight from the www.lds.org website. There are plenty of articles in Brigham Young University Studies and Dialogue: A journal of Mormon Thought on the multiple accounts. The multiple accounts are simply a fact. How one interprets the contradictions (or I guess whether one considers the inconsistencies as contradictions) is the theological issue, and I'm not touching that.
19 posted on
10/17/2011 9:08:14 AM PDT by
Scoutmaster
(You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred.)
To: Godzilla
And the same Smith that went right back to stealing sheep AFTER he claims he had met god and jesus or was it just jesus or was it an angel or several anghels ???
To: Godzilla
And the same Smith that went right back to stealing sheep AFTER he claims he had met god and jesus or was it just jesus or was it an angel or several angels ???
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