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To: Colofornian

they believe, Joseph was visited by God the Father and Jesus Christ.....

As a Christian I stopped right there. The Bible says that the next time Jesus shows up we’ll all know about it. He won’t sneak into the woods to see one man.


2 posted on 10/17/2011 8:09:20 AM PDT by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a SECOND party.)
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To: Terry Mross
"Mormons believe that in 1820 a young Joseph Smith went into the woods to pray."

This would be the same Joseph Smith who was a convicted con man and fraudster.

3 posted on 10/17/2011 8:13:52 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Terry Mross

—they believe, Joseph was visited by God the Father and Jesus Christ...__

I don’t blame you for stopping right there. And I’ll give you another reason. Jesus is God made flesh. He is not “one of the manifestations” of God made Flesh. He is THE manifestation of God as human flesh.


5 posted on 10/17/2011 8:29:38 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Terry Mross
they believe, Joseph was visited by God the Father and Jesus Christ..... As a Christian I stopped right there. The Bible says that the next time Jesus shows up we’ll all know about it. He won’t sneak into the woods to see one man.

Yes, very good point. When he comes again every eye shall see him. There will be no "secret" returns.

Re 1:7* Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

The Bible also says that no man has seen God (the Father) at any time. Jesus speaking:

John 1:18* No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

What's more Jesus explicitly states that God the Father is a Spirit and does not have a body of flesh.

John 4: 23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. 24* God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

Consequently Joseph Smith could not have seen God the Father. He saw a demon, an angel bringing a false gospel. The Bible warns us:

Galatians: 6* ¶ I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: 7* Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. 8* But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. 9* As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

7 posted on 10/17/2011 8:34:50 AM PDT by nonsporting
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To: Terry Mross

Bookmarked.


15 posted on 10/17/2011 8:53:09 AM PDT by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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To: Terry Mross

Why no, Ma'am; FR is NOT a good place to be learn the things we want you to know about MORMONism.

73 posted on 10/18/2011 4:29:25 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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