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To: ex-snook
Right. Now you are on the right track. Keep thinking Mary was the Mother of God.

Mary is not the Mother of God the Father, Mary is not the Mother of the Holy Spirit. She was the physical Mother of the Lord Jesus Christ.

What you are trying to do is to put her in authority over God saying she is the "Mother of God". No God, the three persons in on is Sovereign over the whole universe and is sovereign over Salvation.

I am convinced she would not like this title, and instead gave herself the title "Handmaiden of the Lord" in Luke 1:38. And to submit herself totally before God instead of trying to run things saying "be it unto me according to thy word".

What is going on is that a False Mary is being promoted with attributes that only God could have "Hearing Prayers, Giving Grace, Healing, redeeming from sins, and being a co-redemptrix". And she is worshiped (under the rubrix of veneration) into something that she is not.

21 posted on 10/10/2011 12:35:55 PM PDT by sr4402
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To: sr4402
No, God the three persons in one, is Sovereign over the whole universe and is Sovereign over Salvation
22 posted on 10/10/2011 12:42:34 PM PDT by sr4402
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To: sr4402
Mary is not the Mother of God the Father, Mary is not the Mother of the Holy Spirit. She was the physical Mother of the Lord Jesus Christ.

Better brush up on your Scripture reading, kid.

"And she cried out with a loud voice, and said: Blessed art thou among women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb. And whence is this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me? For behold as soon as the voice of thy salutation sounded in my ears, the infant in my womb leaped for joy." Luke 1:42-44

"Because he hath regarded the humility of his handmaid; for behold from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed." Luke 1:48

"And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we saw His glory, the glory as it were of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth." John 1:14

"Philip saith to Him: Lord, shew us the Father, and it is enough for us. Jesus saith to him: Have I been so long a time with you; and have you not known Me? Philip, he that seeth Me seeth the Father also. How sayest thou, Shew us the Father? Do you not believe, that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me? The words that I speak to you, I speak not of Myself. But the Father who abideth in Me, He doth the works. Believe you not that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me?" John 14:8-11

"And account the longsuffering of our Lord, salvation; as also our most dear brother Paul, according to the wisdom given him, hath written to you: As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are certain things hard to be understood, which the unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, to their own destruction." 2 Peter 3:15-16

29 posted on 10/10/2011 9:30:41 PM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: sr4402; ex-snook
She was the physical Mother of the Lord Jesus Christ.

And the Lord Jesus Christ was/is God. hence Mary is the mother of God, Jesus Christ. She is of course not the mother of the Father or the Holy Spirit, but she is the mother of God the Son. The three -- Father, Son and Holy Spirit are co-eternal and of one being and are God and were the ones who created Mary. Mary gave birth to God the Son, Mary was the mother of God the Son.

Just as your mother did not create you by giving birth to you, similarly Mary of course was not the creator, she was in fact created by her Son, Jesus Christ, Lord, GOD and Savior.

If you deny that Mary was the Mother of God the Son, then you are denying Jesus' divinity

32 posted on 10/10/2011 11:19:00 PM PDT by Cronos (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2787101/posts?page=58#58)
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To: sr4402; ex-snook; Tax-chick; Morgana

Mary can only hear prayers through the Grace of God. She may only dispense the Grace that comes FROM God. She does not redeem you from sin. None of what you say is even our beliefs — stop saying “you believe in this, I say so, now explain to me why.” despite so many telling you that we do not believe what you are saying we do


33 posted on 10/10/2011 11:20:40 PM PDT by Cronos (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2787101/posts?page=58#58)
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