Posted on 10/03/2011 9:24:36 AM PDT by jesus4life
This may come as a double post. In the name of Jesus I answered this, but dont see it. But, I see the other posts.
JESUS in the flesh killed no one.
In the OT, GOD killed, repented, and promised prophets, women, and messengers multitudes of children for their lineage after He used them for acts of killing.
Example: The Flood (Noah); God repented and sealed his repentance with the convenant ( the rainbow) to promise that He would never kill the whole earth by water. from there giving Noah clean and unclean of all things to inhabit the earth again.
Sodom and Gemorrah, Bable, and more.....GOD repented and gave promises and more children to those killed. Remember that GOD can kill and also re-create. We can not.
The prophets and messengers in different times cried to God to not kill and send someone to speak on his level for us ( Job asked for a mediator, David forever asking for forgiveness for us in Psalms, Isaiah, Daniel, and more....).
And now ladies and GENTLEmen, say, “ hello to JESUS CHRIST!!”. The mediator, author, and guide of our faith; our lord and saviour.
Without Jesus we are dying straight from our sins.
Jesus life, death, defeat over the adversary, then ascension was all for us to have grace from the wages of our sins; which is death.
Read the bible with the love of christ. Not with the lust of the flesh; which wants to judge, hate, seperate, and put down. Trust in the LORD. He will definitely do all that ( judging, seperating, killing, etc...) in his time. He will. Not us.
I am definitely into and truly understand the Jesus of turning over tables, and rebuking the Pharisees. But he did that knowing humans’ hearts and intentions. Can any of you honestly say you know another persons’ true intentions and feelings 100% like JESUS?? If any of you say YES, then you are a liar.
Because we dont know a persons’ heart, we can’t judge. This is why Jesus says to not judge. Our point on this earth is to love one another ( enemies, friends, strangers,etc...) as Jesus instructed. Anything else is false gospel.
To love someone doesnt mean you do what they do.
Loving them is to talk to them the way you would want to be talked to. So, if you want to tell someone to stop being something that is against GOD, then you must live it first. Because if you can’t live it, then you are not an example, and when you fall short, you now become a hypocrite. Which only makes that sinful person now feel better about sinning.
I have noticed that she is not here so I have been praying for her. Thanks for the update.
Read carefully in faith
HEBREWS 9 and 10:
HEBREW 9
1 The first covenant also had its laws governing worship and its sanctuary, a sanctuary on this earth.
2 There was a tent which comprised two compartments: the first, in which the lamp-stand, the table and the loaves of permanent offering were kept, was called the Holy Place;
3 then beyond the second veil, a second compartment which was called the Holy of Holies
4 to which belonged the gold altar of incense, and the ark of the covenant, plated all over with gold. In this were kept the gold jar containing the manna, Aaron’s branch that grew the buds, and the tables of the covenant.
5 On top of it were the glorious winged creatures, overshadowing the throne of mercy. This is not the time to go into detail about this.
6 Under these provisions, priests go regularly into the outer tent to carry out their acts of worship,
7 but the second tent is entered only once a year, and then only by the high priest who takes in the blood to make an offering for his own and the people’s faults of inadvertence.
8 By this, the Holy Spirit means us to see that as long as the old tent stands, the way into the holy place is not opened up;
9 it is a symbol for this present time. None of the gifts and sacrifices offered under these regulations can possibly bring any worshipper to perfection in his conscience;
10 they are rules about outward life, connected with food and drink and washing at various times, which are in force only until the time comes to set things right.
11 But now Christ has come, as the high priest of all the blessings which were to come. He has passed through the greater, the more perfect tent, not made by human hands, that is, not of this created order;
12 and he has entered the sanctuary once and for all, taking with him not the blood of goats and bull calves, but his own blood, having won an eternal redemption.
13 The blood of goats and bulls and the ashes of a heifer, sprinkled on those who have incurred defilement, may restore their bodily purity.
14 How much more will the blood of Christ, who offered himself, blameless as he was, to God through the eternal Spirit, purify our conscience from dead actions so that we can worship the living God.
15 This makes him the mediator of a new covenant, so that, now that a death has occurred to redeem the sins committed under an earlier covenant, those who have been called to an eternal inheritance may receive the promise.
16 Now wherever a will is in question, the death of the testator must be established;
17 a testament comes into effect only after a death, since it has no force while the testator is still alive.
18 That is why even the earlier covenant was inaugurated with blood,
19 and why, after Moses had promulgated all the commandments of the Law to the people, he took the calves’ blood, the goats’ blood and some water, and with these he sprinkled the book itself and all the people, using scarlet wool and hyssop;
20 saying as he did so: This is the blood of the covenant that God has made with you.
21 And he sprinkled both the tent and all the liturgical vessels with blood in the same way.
22 In fact, according to the Law, practically every purification takes place by means of blood; and if there is no shedding of blood, there is no remission.
23 Only the copies of heavenly things are purified in this way; the heavenly things themselves have to be purified by a higher sort of sacrifice than this.
24 It is not as though Christ had entered a man-made sanctuary which was merely a model of the real one; he entered heaven itself, so that he now appears in the presence of God on our behalf.
25 And he does not have to offer himself again and again, as the high priest goes into the sanctuary year after year with the blood that is not his own,
26 or else he would have had to suffer over and over again since the world began. As it is, he has made his appearance once and for all, at the end of the last age, to do away with sin by sacrificing himself.
27 Since human beings die only once, after which comes judgement,
28 so Christ too, having offered himself only once to bear the sin of many, will manifest himself a second time, sin being no more, to those who are waiting for him, to bring them salvation.
HEBREWS 10
1 So, since the Law contains no more than a reflection of the good things which were still to come, and no true image of them, it is quite incapable of bringing the worshippers to perfection, by means of the same sacrifices repeatedly offered year after year.
2 Otherwise, surely the offering of them would have stopped, because the worshippers, when they had been purified once, would have no awareness of sins.
3 But in fact the sins are recalled year after year in the sacrifices.
4 Bulls’ blood and goats’ blood are incapable of taking away sins,
5 and that is why he said, on coming into the world: You wanted no sacrifice or cereal offering, but you gave me a body.
6 You took no pleasure in burnt offering or sacrifice for sin;
7 then I said, ‘Here I am, I am coming,’ in the scroll of the book it is written of me, to do your will, God.
8 He says first You did not want what the Law lays down as the things to be offered, that is: the sacrifices, the cereal offerings, the burnt offerings and the sacrifices for sin, and you took no pleasure in them;
9 and then he says: Here I am! I am coming to do your will. He is abolishing the first sort to establish the second.
10 And this will was for us to be made holy by the offering of the body of Jesus Christ made once and for all.
11 Every priest stands at his duties every day, offering over and over again the same sacrifices which are quite incapable of taking away sins.
12 He, on the other hand, has offered one single sacrifice for sins, and then taken his seat for ever, at the right hand of God,
13 where he is now waiting till his enemies are made his footstool.
14 By virtue of that one single offering, he has achieved the eternal perfection of all who are sanctified.
15 The Holy Spirit attests this to us, for after saying:
16 No, this is the covenant I will make with them, when those days have come. the Lord says: In their minds I will plant my Laws writing them on their hearts,
17 and I shall never more call their sins to mind, or their offences.
18 When these have been forgiven, there can be no more sin offerings.
19 We have then, brothers, complete confidence through the blood of Jesus in entering the sanctuary,
20 by a new way which he has opened for us, a living opening through the curtain, that is to say, his flesh.
21 And we have the high priest over all the sanctuary of God.
22 So as we go in, let us be sincere in heart and filled with faith, our hearts sprinkled and free from any trace of bad conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.
23 Let us keep firm in the hope we profess, because the one who made the promise is trustworthy.
24 Let us be concerned for each other, to stir a response in love and good works.
25 Do not absent yourself from your own assemblies, as some do, but encourage each other; the more so as you see the Day drawing near.
26 If, after we have been given knowledge of the truth, we should deliberately commit any sins, then there is no longer any sacrifice for them.
27 There is left only the dreadful prospect of judgement and of the fiery wrath that is to devour your enemies.
28 Anyone who disregards the Law of Moses is ruthlessly put to death on the word of two witnesses or three;
29 and you may be sure that anyone who tramples on the Son of God, and who treats the blood of the covenant which sanctified him as if it were not holy, and who insults the Spirit of grace, will be condemned to a far severer punishment.
30 We are all aware who it was that said: Vengeance is mine; I will pay them back. And again: The Lord will vindicate his people.
31 It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
32 Remember the great challenge of the sufferings that you had to meet after you received the light, in earlier days;
33 sometimes by being yourselves publicly exposed to humiliations and violence, and sometimes as associates of others who were treated in the same way.
34 For you not only shared in the sufferings of those who were in prison, but you accepted with joy being stripped of your belongings, knowing that you owned something that was better and lasting.
35 Do not lose your fearlessness now, then, since the reward is so great.
36 You will need perseverance if you are to do God’s will and gain what he has promised.
37 Only a little while now, a very little while, for come he certainly will before too long.
38 My upright person will live through faith but if he draws back, my soul will take no pleasure in him.
39 We are not the sort of people who draw back, and are lost by it; we are the sort who keep faith until our souls are saved.
Not a bad answer.
Wow! So there are hopes for the rest of the “I have no religion but hate for Christianity” crowd.
Of course, the RCIA takes a lot of time and effort. Though it isn't complex, just the love of our Lord, God and Savior Jesus Christ and she will come to His Church the One Holy Apostolic Catholic Church.
Good news.
During the Initiation into the Church a person who believes in the tenets as stated in the Nicene Creed would not have a problem. Alien-god-believers like quix's group would have a big problem. Mormons too, btw smvoice. To believe that Jesus Christ is the only begotten Son of God, 100% man and 100% God part of the Triune God with the Father and the Holy Spirit is the first step.
well written. Jesus Christ is the main example of how to live our lives and Mary too is an example to us of obedience and acceptance and the Apostles are examples of how we can still follow no matter how flawed we are.
Shouldn't it be the other way around as well? Yet you accept the six day young earth creationism and reject the virgin birth -- why?
your blanket statements are no different than those who wrote that vile piece of trash the Protocols of the elders of Zion. True Jews would be ashamed that anyone who uses those same tactics would try to align themselves with them.
Quix out of the twilight Zone? The same group that says
Others are expecting China to EMP the whole USA soon—possibly as soon as 9/11—9/15
many people think God is Santa
I warned on FR that a demon pretending to be Jesus might come in a space ship and say He was an alien
Do Not get on any spaceship.
A solidly constructed and administered Harris Poll indicates that more than 3 million folks have had such an experience (getting on spaceships)
Jesse Duplantis preaches the 100% evangelical bible
Benny Hinn is preaching the word of God
Oh yeah, if one relies on THAT group to get out of the Twilight Zone it means that group is taking one to the sub-Twilight crazy zone.
Amo 4:7 "I also withheld the rain from you when there were yet three months to the harvest; I would send rain on one city, and send no rain on another city; one field would have rain, and the field on which it did not rain would wither;
Amo 4:8 so two or three cities would wander to another city to drink water, and would not be satisfied; yet you did not return to me," declares the LORD.
Amo 4:9 "I struck you with blight and mildew; your many gardens and your vineyards, your fig trees and your olive trees the locust devoured; yet you did not return to me," declares the LORD.
Amo 4:10 "I sent among you a pestilence after the manner of Egypt; I killed your young men with the sword, and carried away your horses, [fn] and I made the stench of your camp go up into your nostrils; yet you did not return to me," declares the LORD.
Amo 4:11 "I overthrew some of you, as when God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah, and you were as a brand [fn] plucked out of the burning; yet you did not return to me," declares the LORD.
The idea that "God can kill because He can recreate" flies in the face that God doesn't kill. In fact He does and He does so justly.
"1. If we want evil to stop, why do speak of where it is, how to see it, where to see it, and when it may happen?"
Not understanding your question, but Satan is the father of lies and the source of all evil.
" 2. Do we really believe GOD sees all things and will handle all things?"
Yes, God is omniscient and sovereign over all, and has a plan that he has revealed to us in His Word, the Holy Bible.
"3. If we revere Mary as the mother of GOD, why do we not copy her obedience??"
I do not revere Mary any more than I revere Abraham, King David, or John the Baptist - they were all servants of the Living God. Period.
"4. If we believe in CHRIST as the son of GOD, who killed no one, loved everyone, and died for all. Why do we worry about dying??"
I don't worry about dying - my eternal destination is secured.
"Why do we want to kill others??"
I do not want to kill others, but I will if my family is threatened.
"Why do we hate others?"
I do not hate anyone - dislike maybe, but not hate.
"Why do we want to own land, take over other countries?"
I own land to secure provision for my family, but do not want to take over "other countries".
"Why do we want to judge others faith, walk, and lives before they die, knowing that GOD has power to save and can save anyone?"
God is the ultimate judge, but He has also given us wisdom and a discerning spirit so we can be "wise as a serpent and gentle as a lamb".
"5. Do we believe heaven exists?? If so, where is it for all of you??"
Yes, heaven is where Jesus has gone to prepare a place for us - for those who repent of their sins and accept Him as Savior and Lord.
"The holy spirit brought me to some passages for all of us to think about:"
Thank you for sharing those Bible verses with us, and welcome to Freerepublic.
Psalm 73. You have at least did what the post asked for and answered the questions. That’s all I asked and I thank you for your obedience in this situation.
As far as Question 1, you understood it. No need for the re-wording. The answer was an answer. Again, I appreciate your time in answering. As well as the time others put in here to even comment. Communication is a part of fellowship
PWND....
Slander.
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