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Romney, while detestable, is no where near the realm of the convolution of the lies perpetuated in this bogus article. It’s unworthy of any commentary other than to say it’s blatant propaganda, cherry picked and filled with anecdote, perpetuated by an unquestionable liar who wrote it.


5 posted on 09/20/2011 12:22:33 PM PDT by JDW11235 (I think I got it now!)
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Just saying it's propaganda and lies doesn't make it true. There is nothing quoted that is not true. If you have some information that SLC has denounced this please provide it, I'll pass it on to my lds family as they recite these “propaganda and lies” frequently. I don't want them to be ill-informed.
8 posted on 09/20/2011 12:31:00 PM PDT by svcw (Do liberals get brain freeze if they eat ice cream to fast? (probably not, no brains))
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your post is unworthy of commentary other than to say it’s blantant propaganda.....

How about actually backing up your baseless accusations?


10 posted on 09/20/2011 12:34:00 PM PDT by Turtlepower
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To: JDW11235; Turtlepower; svcw
Romney, while detestable, is no where near the realm of the convolution of the lies perpetuated in this bogus article. It’s unworthy of any commentary other than to say it’s blatant propaganda, cherry picked and filled with anecdote, perpetuated by an unquestionable liar who wrote it.

That's all Mormons & Mormon allies have got. Accusations. Just call people "liars." No need to try to actually analyze anything. Just be a quick-draw McGraw & toss out the "liar" label.

Just look at the political overreach of the Mormon church & its leaders:

Lds Leader Chronological 'Prophet' or Fundamental # (or Other Title) Overlap Areas: Could the President of the U.S. become a 'puppet' to an Lds 'Prophet?' (The Lds Prophets -- in their own words)
John Taylor Lds 'Prophet' #3 “The Almighty has established this kingdom with order and laws and every thing pertaining thereto…[so] that when the nations shall be convulsed, we may stand forth as saviours…and finally redeem a ruined world, not only in a religious but in a political point of view.” (Journal of Discourses, vol. 9, p. 342, April 13, 1862)
Orson Hyde President of the Lds Quorum of the 12 Apostles for 28 years (1847-1875) “What the world calls ‘Mormonism’ will rule every nation...God has decreed it, and his own right arm will accomplish it. This will make the heathen rage.” (Journal of Discourses, vol. 7, p. 53)
Heber J. Grant Lds 'Prophet' #7 "Elder Marion G. Romney recalled the counsel of President Heber J. Grant: 'My boy, you always keep your eye on the President of the Church, and if he ever tells you to do anything, and it is wrong, and you do it, the Lord will bless you for it.' Then with a twinkle in his eye, he said, 'But you don't need to worry. The Lord will never let his mouthpiece lead the people astray'" (in Conference Report, Oct. 1960, p. 78)." Cited in Official Lds publication Search the Commandments: Melchizedek Priesthood Personal Study Guide, p. 209 (1984)
Harold B. Lee Lds 'Prophet' #11 ...President Harold B. Lee said: 'We must learn to give heed to the words and commandments that the Lord shall give through his prophet, '...as if from mine own mouth...(D&C 21:4-5)...You may not like what comes from the authority of the Church. It may contradict your political views. It may contradict your social views. It may interfere with some of your social life. But if you listen to these things, as if from the mouth of the Lord himself..." Cited in official Lds publication Remember Me: Relief Society Personal Study Guide I, p. 27 (1989)
Spencer Kimball Lds 'Prophet' #12 "President Spencer W. Kimball said: '...We deal with many things which are thought to be not so spiritual; but all things are spiritual with the Lord, and he expects us to listen, and to obey..." (In Conference Report, Apr. 1977, p. 8; or Ensign, May 1977, p. 7) Cited in official Lds publication Come, Follow Me: Melchizedek Priesthood Personal Study Guide 1983, p.12 (1983)
What about Marion G. Romney, cousin to Mitt's father? Who was he in Lds hierarchy? (Title: 'President' - Top 3 of church as 2nd counselor to both #11 & #12 Lds 'prophets') "Elder Neal A. Maxwell has said: 'Following the living prophets is something that must be done in all seasons and circumstances. We must be like President Marion G. Romney, who humbly said, '..I have never hesitated to follow the counsel of the Authorities of the Church even though it crossed my social, professional, and political life' (Conference Report, April 1941, p. 123). There are, or will be moments when prophetic declarations collide with our pride or our seeming personal interests...Do I believe in the living prophet even when he speaks on matters affecting me and my specialty directly? Or do I stop sustaining the prophet when his words fall in my territory? if the latter, the prophet is without honor in our country! (Things As They Really Are, p. 73). Cited in official Lds publication, Search the Commandments: Melchizedek Priesthood Personal Study Guide, pp. 275-276 (1984)
Ezra Taft Benson Lds 'Prophet' #13 Benson speech given 2/26/80 @BYU. Summary: “…remember, if there is ever a conflict between earthly knowledge and the words of the prophet, you stand with the prophet…” (See excerpts re: 3 of 14 'fundamentals' below) Source: Fourteen Fundamentals in Following the Prophet
Benson (cont'd) Fundamental #5 5. The prophet is not required to have any particular earthly training or credentials to speak on any subject or act on any matter at any time. (My Q: Ya hear that Mitt Romney? Ya hear that Jon Huntsman?)
Benson (cont'd) Fundamental #9 9. The prophet can receive revelation on any matter, temporal or spiritual. (My Q: Still listening, Mitt? Still listening, Jon?)
Benson (cont'd) Fundamental #10 10. The prophet may advise on civic matters. (My Q: What say ye Mitt? What say ye Jon?)
Mitt Romney as POTUS??? Aside from above prophetic impositions, why would Mitt not only honor what these 'prophets' have spoken, but what a future Lds 'prophet' may tell him to do? The Law of Consecration Oath Mitt Romney has sworn in the Mormon temple (done before marriage/sealing in temple): "You and each of you covenant and promise before God, angels, and these witnesses at this altar, that you do accept the law of consecration as contained in this, the book of Doctrine and Covenants [he displays the book], in that you do consecrate yourselves, your time, talents, and EVERYTHING with which the Lord has blessed you, or WITH which he MAY bless you, to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, for the building up of the kingdom of God on the earth and for the establishment of Zion." Source: What is an LDS Church/Mormon temple marriage/sealing? [Q: Please define 'Zion': The LDS PR Web site (lds.org) defines its primary meaning: "membership in the [LDS] church."]

16 posted on 09/20/2011 1:15:42 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: JDW11235
Romney, while detestable, is no where near the realm of the convolution of the lies perpetuated in this bogus article. It’s unworthy of any commentary other than to say it’s blatant propaganda, cherry picked and filled with anecdote, perpetuated by an unquestionable liar who wrote it.

Have you ever studied Mormonism?? Look up the White horse prophecy on line

25 posted on 09/20/2011 2:34:18 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: JDW11235
Romney, while detestable, is no where near the realm of the convolution of the lies perpetuated in this bogus article.

PLEASE!

Point out the lies for those who do not know the truth of the matter!

36 posted on 09/20/2011 7:17:57 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: JDW11235

“It’s unworthy of any commentary other than to say it’s blatant propaganda, cherry picked and filled with anecdote, perpetuated by an unquestionable liar who wrote it.”

Like so much other anti Mormon junk on this site.


49 posted on 09/21/2011 11:53:08 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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