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Near-Death Experiences: 30 Years of Research
Epoch Times ^ | September 13, 2011 | Stephanie Lam

Posted on 09/17/2011 3:16:55 PM PDT by NYer

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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

Seems the “evidence” points more to an after-life than not.


21 posted on 09/17/2011 4:22:01 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: EGPWS

Was supposed to have died in a car crash .. rainy night, slick and dark road, went off a small mountain road and hit a boulder.

Woke up in a Life Flight chopper and Scared the #ell out of the rescue team who ‘thought’ that I had died! (Fooled Them 8)

No lights, No visions .. Nothing

Never even knew that I had been ‘gone’ for over 20 minutes!


22 posted on 09/17/2011 4:29:09 PM PDT by freejohn ("Never argue with a fool; onlookers may not be able to tell the difference." --- Mark Twain)
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To: ilovesarah2012
"Evidence" is NOT "Proof." Evidence is a statement, writing, material object or other thing presented to the senses. Proof is the impact or "force" of the evidence on the mind. The stories do not really rise to proof. My favorite is the Indian bureaucrat sending the person back due to paperwork error. Is that what you mean by an afterlife? What about the persons who experience Blackness-nothing! I have personally met one of the latter people-nothing! I don't take that as "Proof" that there is no life after death.

To me it is only those who are living who relate their experiences. Those who remain dead do not tell us. There is a VAST difference between the two groups.

23 posted on 09/17/2011 4:35:14 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: NYer; All

These worked when i collected them, but we must prove all things but the established Word of God. (Acts 17:11)

Glimpse of Eternity with Ian McCormack: stung by box jellyfish: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3682855866783766146 -Download: http://www.divinerevelations.info/Documents/ian_mccormack/Glimps_of_Eternity_GoodQuality.mp4 (Download)

Dr Maurice Rawlings - NDE – Interviews: To Hell and Back; including an atheist)Download: http://media.tbn.org/download/tbn/gallery/To_Hell_And_Back.wmv

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6547221602055506348&q=mickey+robinson&total=57&start=0&num=50&so=0&type=search&plindex=1 ( Mickey Robinson — air crash to Christ)

Roman Gutierrez — “Twice” dead: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3754387560159309665

Channel 7 news — man raised from dead after 40 minutes: http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=-2334132798216105638&hl=en

NDE Research: Gary habermas Near Death Experiences and the Afterlife (Video File download) http://digitalcommons.liberty.edu/context/lts_fac_pubs/article/1214/type/native/viewcontent

BBC documentary, The Day I Died 1- NDE Documentary Part 1 of 6 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1vWoUoiaP4

23 Minutes in Hell by Bill Wiese: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1694635918884432260

Matthew Botsford - To Hell and Back http://www.cbn.com/700club/features/Amazing/Matthew_Botsford011206.aspx

Deerinda Lowe Gets A Second Chance http://www.cbn.com/700club/features/amazing/Deerinda-Lowe-120810.aspx

The Day Jeffrey Thompson Almost Died http://www.cbn.com/700club/features/amazing/Jeffrey-Thompson-072810.aspx

http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=390590177647370865&hl=en Heaven & Hell Accounts - Final Destiny


24 posted on 09/17/2011 4:35:28 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Our sinful deeds condemn us, but Christ's death and resurrection gains salvation. Repent +Believe)
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To: madmominct

I see no immediate harm in your belief nor do I intend to belittle it. I believe in an afterlife I just don’t think NDE’s are proof of it. I think it was St Paul that said we have to believe in things unseen. I can live with that advice.


25 posted on 09/17/2011 4:44:45 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: madmominct
I know several people who've had them. I believe they're real. In my Dad's case, he remembered being chased by demons until a vision appeared of a man that told him, "don't worry, I'm going to save you". Later, after he recovered, he accepted Christ for the first time in his 78 long years. Less than a year later, he passed away in his sleep with his arm behind his head and a peaceful look on his face.

I've studied the sciences all of my life. The one thing I've learned is that there's much more that we don't know about the world or the forces around us than we know.

Carl Sagan used to say, "if there isn't other life in the universe, it's a terrible waste of space."

I modified it a bit and say, "if there isn't life after death, it's a terrible waste of life."

26 posted on 09/17/2011 4:47:02 PM PDT by Errant
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

If never said it was proof. I just happen to believe in Heaven and Hell and there seems to be some emperical evidence that they are real. What is great is we will all know definitively some day.


27 posted on 09/17/2011 5:00:18 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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I like Scripter's tagline, from C.S. Lewis, goes something like:

You are aren't a body that has a soul, you are a soul that has a body.

The soul is the source of our life and makes the body alive, is the source of consciousness and awareness, and the soul uses the brain sort of how a person uses a computer. Workarounds are possible.

28 posted on 09/17/2011 5:06:15 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: NYer
D.L. Moody, of the Moody Bible Institute in Chicago had an interesting death. One account said he actually died and came back to life two times before he breathed his last.

Here is one account: On November 16, he preached his last sermon on Excuses (Luke 14:16-24) and hundreds were won to Christ that night. He was very ill afterward, the illness thought to be fatty degeneration of the heart. Arriving home in Northfield November 19 for rest, he climbed the stairs to his bedroom--never to leave it again. He died about seven a.m. December 22, with a note of victory. He is reported to have said such things as the following at his death: "I see earth receding; heaven is approaching (or opening). God is calling me. This is my triumph. This is my coronation day. It is glorious. God is calling and I must go. Mama, you have been a good wife...no pain...no valley...it's bliss."

29 posted on 09/17/2011 5:12:53 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever ( Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: NYer
shared death experiences

Maybe that's what happened, then. I haven't been able to make sense of it since October, 2007 when it occurred.

I was on the floor of the hallway by the master bedroom, he died in my arms, and I tried frantically to resuscitate him, pounded his chest, attempted mouth to mouth, and then I was up at the ceiling looking down, watching myself. It could have been anything from a second or two to several minutes, I don't really know. Then, I was back to myself, and stared at that spot on the ceiling for a long time.

It wasn't a person who died in my arms that night though. It was Woodie, my Lab.

30 posted on 09/17/2011 5:15:07 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: NYer
Our perception of time/life is so skewed.

We think we are moving forward in time.

In reality we are looking at the extreme recent past.

We've been looking backwards our ENTIRE LIFE.


What was this solar system 100 million billion trillion years ago?

What will it become again in the same time?


Squash that time line into the middle of infinity.

Our natural state is DUST. Our perceived existence/reality is not our "REAL" state.

We dream to rest our eternal consciousness/soul from the grind of being animated into this temporal realm of dust.

31 posted on 09/17/2011 5:17:15 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (It is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; ~Vattel's Law of Nations)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
"In conclusion, these reports are interesting but are not evidence of an after life. Sorry!"

I beg to differ. They may not be conclusive evidence, but they do collectively suggest there is something there, at least for some of us.

32 posted on 09/17/2011 5:18:52 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Errant

I have been on here for years but very seldom post anything. I just have to tell you about a friend of mine, Kay, who died years ago at the age of 16. She was in a cancer hospital in Texas and had made friends with a girl who was named Amy. Amy died but Kay was too sick to be told about it. Right before she died Kay said “Jesus, I didn’t know you were bringing Amy with you.” So I do believe that it is possible that a loved one can great us along with our maker on the other side.


33 posted on 09/17/2011 5:20:32 PM PDT by GODAWGS47
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To: Joe 6-pack
I wonder, are NDE's not a sort of "sign seeking?" I hasten to add I don't know? Perhaps someone educated in theology could express an opinion. We are told we have to have faith in things unseen(St. Paul).

Being naturalistic for a moment. I have never seen a study where people reporting such NDE "experiences' have been measured on an introvert-extrovert scale, an optimistic/pessimistic scale. Would there be a difference in that optimists report "heavenly" experiences while depressives report "hellish" experiences? I would predict depressives would report more demonic, fearful NDE's.

34 posted on 09/17/2011 5:30:41 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

One man’s evidence is another man’s proof.

People were alive that saw Christ’s miracles, and were healed, and spoke with Him, and not even Jesus Christ in the flesh could convince people about how to avoid Hell and be saved.

It’s not a surprise people want to discard first hand testimony from a person who’s dead and comes back to life. Rationalization is the second greatest human drive.


35 posted on 09/17/2011 5:30:57 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

True. You did not say “proof.” My bad!


36 posted on 09/17/2011 5:31:38 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

I would say no.

there have been plenty of accounts from unsaved people that have died and have been in Hell, that have come back and have become saved people.

Every one of them that I’ve heard, say they were not Christians before, they did not consider themselves good people, and were not looking to change their life, much less find Jesus Christ.


37 posted on 09/17/2011 5:33:22 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: GODAWGS47
Bless you for sharing. :)

I'm completely convinced myself.

38 posted on 09/17/2011 5:33:27 PM PDT by Errant
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To: GODAWGS47

Thanks for sharing


39 posted on 09/17/2011 5:36:42 PM PDT by LivingNet
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To: Joe 6-pack

When all of you die let me know. I am wanting to see my family again.


40 posted on 09/17/2011 5:36:51 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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